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PT Are the novelizations of the films still cannon?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by skelyrata, Jan 6, 2016.

  1. skelyrata

    skelyrata Jedi Master star 1

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    I know that all the Expanded Universe was wiped and sent to the Legends dimmension. But, I have a problem in my mind because the novelizations of Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith are tied to other EU novels. They even make references to events that happned in those books, to the point that Attack of the Clones novel is the "sequel" of another novel that came right before it. And Revenge of the Sith book is the "sequel" of another novel. But since the Expanded Universe has been wiped, I don't know if the events they mention are still cannon.
    Has there been an official position about the cannon status of the novelizations of the Star Warts movies?
     
  2. Alexrd

    Alexrd Chosen One star 6

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    It's canon, not cannon.

    And yes, the novels are canon whenever they don't contradict the movies or other canonical material.
     
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  3. CaptainSuchandSuch

    CaptainSuchandSuch Jedi Master star 2

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    Also, it's Star Wars, not Star Warts.
     
  4. DBPirate

    DBPirate Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm reading the ROTS one right now and there's a lot of EU (and I mean a lot) references. To me, it's canon except for the sentences that mention the EU.

    That's the great thing about head canon. You can choose what you want.
     
  5. Sith_Smuggler

    Sith_Smuggler Jedi Knight star 1

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    I'm honestly not sure if the novelizations of the "Star Warts" books are canon, but I do know for a fact that the novelizations of the "Star Wars" books are indeed canon.
     
  6. Darth__Lobot

    Darth__Lobot Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    As I said in another thread - you are best off assuming nothing except what is in the movie is canon... and even then you aren't always safe
     
  7. SW Saga Fan

    SW Saga Fan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I've never considered the old Expanded Universe book and comics.

    However, I've read the novelization of ROTS which I liked very much since it allows to know more about what is going on the characters' head and their personality. But I prefer the way how the movie approaches Anakin's turn, which is more gradual and shows more obviously his internal conflict, after receiving his baptism as Darth Vader, rather than in the novel in which he becomes immediately cold-blooded murderer.
     
  8. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Chosen One star 7

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    The novels add to the movie experience imo.
    As do the deleted scenes.
    Read them anyway. Regardless of canon.
     
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  9. Darth Dnej

    Darth Dnej Jedi Master star 4

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    I asked Star Wars Books on Facebook this very question. Here is what they said: "All the novelizations are canon where they align with the films."
    The obvious answer sure, but I wanted to share the voice of an official Star Wars page.
    For all the Star Wars novels I have read (over a dozen) I have only completed one movie novelization: ROTS. I am in the process of reading TFA right now.
     
  10. Davak24

    Davak24 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Are the novels worth reading?
     
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  11. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Chosen One star 7

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    Yes. ROTS is amazing in its own right.
    TPM and AOTC include the deleted scenes and really help out.
    ANH and ESB are pretty good.
    ROTJ novel have some excellent scenes as well.
    Read them!
     
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  12. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    The novelizations of I-VI aren't canon. Story Group confirmed this at celebration.
     
  13. Deliveranze

    Deliveranze Force Ghost star 6

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    Only if that business on Cato Nemodia still counts....
     
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  14. Slicer87

    Slicer87 Jedi Master star 4

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    The finished films always overrode the novelizations. In fact Lucasfilm stated that the novelizations are fuzzy windows of the story of the films since they often included deleted scenes, lines, and sub plots. The films themselves are the highest form of canon.
     
  15. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 50x Wacky Wed/3x Two Truths/28x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    Not anymore - the new comics, books, and TV series are now considered equal and there is no "tier system" (G, T, C, S, etc).
     
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  16. Alexrd

    Alexrd Chosen One star 6

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    While the tiers are gone, the films are still the "immovable objects", not random new novel, comic, etc...
     
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  17. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 50x Wacky Wed/3x Two Truths/28x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    The "immovable objects" statement was made in the days of the oldcanon system. It does not apply any more.
     
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  18. Alexrd

    Alexrd Chosen One star 6

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    No, it was made when the EU was rebooted and the new continuity was announced.
     
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  20. EMPEROR_WINDU

    EMPEROR_WINDU Force Ghost star 5

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    The novelizations of the PT are really quite good. ROTS is the best of the bunch but I enjoyed TPM and AOTC as well. Read Shatterpoint as well, it's also written by Matthew Stover (ROTS novel author). You won't be disappointed. Those may be the two best Star Wars novels ever written for my money, anyways.
     
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  21. Deliveranze

    Deliveranze Force Ghost star 6

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    I didn't read Shatterpoint but I do know what it's about. I like how they focus on the WARS aspect of the Clone Wars because there are multiple conflicts going on besides Republic Vs. Separatists. It was a cool idea. The ROTS novel is also fantastic. :)
     
  22. Iron_lord

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    There's junior ones of the PT as well (written by Patricia C. Wrede). They're interesting in how they show some "what people are thinking" moments that the adult ones don't.
     
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  23. Alexrd

    Alexrd Chosen One star 6

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    Yes, it's all basically one tier, but:

    "These stories are the immovable objects of Star Wars history, the characters and events to which all other tales must align."

    Puts the movies (and TCW) as the core to which everything must be compatible with. Every new content must defer to it, not the other way around.
     
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  24. Davak24

    Davak24 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    *gasp*

    Get on that right away! :p
     
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  25. Deliveranze

    Deliveranze Force Ghost star 6

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    Will do, brotha. It's one of the few EU novels I wanna read, Plus...MACE WINDU!!!


    WHEW!
     
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