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Are there Sith children?

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  1. IDigMetalBikinis

    IDigMetalBikinis Jedi Master star 2

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    As someone who has very little knowledge of the EU(especially when it comes to pre-A NEW HOPE era EU), a thought occured to me...

    Is there any instance of a Sith child(or children) anywhere in the EU, a dark counterpart to the squeaky clean toddler Jedi padawans? Or do all Sith start out as light side padawans and turn when they reach adolescence or adulthood?

    The idea of a little snarling five year old terror running around with glowing yellow eyes intrigues me....
     
  2. Ashandarei

    Ashandarei Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Well, Maul was supposed to be trained from infancy as a Sith, wasn't he? Although I doubt Sidious let him run around like that; discipline seems to also be a mainstay of Sith teachings, as well as Jedi teachings.
     
  3. YodaKenobi

    YodaKenobi Former TFN Books Staff star 6 VIP

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    There are Sith Apprentices. I suppose they would be the equivilant of Padawans.

    And if you mean the Sith race, then yes, there would have been many Sith Children.
     
  4. Knight1192

    Knight1192 Jedi Knight star 6

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    Well, Maul was supposed to be trained from infancy as a Sith, wasn't he?


    I'm not sure about his being trained from infancy, I think he was around three or five when Palpatine/Sidious began training him. But he certainly was very young.
     
  5. Brett_Bass

    Brett_Bass Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Not anymore...
    ;)

    In all seriousness, there almost certainly were several thousand years ago, during, say, the golden age of the Sith Empire.
     
  6. killfire

    killfire Jedi Master star 4

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    That could lead to a book called Children of the Sith where the second Eye of Palpatine (he has two in the movies, hasn't he?) is spotted in the unknown regions loaded with Sith children. After wrecking the Chiss redoubt Luke decides he has to stop the ship and is joined by Callista, who in the end gives up her body and merges with the computer to safe the GFFA ...
     
  7. Rebecca191

    Rebecca191 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Didn't one of the kids in Jedi Vs Sith comic become a Sith apprentice at the end? Looked more like 8 or so though.
     
  8. JediOtakuDC

    JediOtakuDC Jedi Youngling

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    well yeah only in the ancient times would there have been but i dont think since then we will ever see another besides i cant see sidious hanging out with a child darth maul i just dont think its his style...
     
  9. QuentinGeorge

    QuentinGeorge Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Looked more like 8 or so though.

    That's a side-effect of the anime-ish art. Tomcat supposed to be in his early teens. (Considering he has stubble on his chin).

    And the EU states that Sidious has raised Maul from such a young age that Maul can't remember

    A) His real family
    B) His homeworld
    c) His birth name.
     
  10. Csillan_girl

    Csillan_girl Jedi Master star 5

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    Did Luke not say that Force-sensitive children are protected from the Dark Side? (it was somewhere in the Corellian Trilogy, IIRC). I have to look that up.
     
  11. Winged_Jedi

    Winged_Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Did Luke not say that Force-sensitive children are protected from the Dark Side?

    That's interesting. Maybe he meant that they can't naturally access the darkside themselves unless someone teaches them how.
     
  12. Sean_Starrider

    Sean_Starrider Jedi Padawan star 4

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    By Sith children do you mean Biologically the child of a Sith? Say for instance did a Darth somewhere along the way actually father a child? I would think that at somepoint some Sith had to get down. :)
     
  13. LastOneStanding

    LastOneStanding Jedi Padawan star 4

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    That's a side-effect of the anime-ish art. Tomcat supposed to be in his early teens. (Considering he has stubble on his chin).

    I get the feeling Rebecca was refering to Rain, the girl who encounters Bane near the end of Jedi vs. Sith, and has a quote along the lines of "I'm like you...I'm a murderer too."

    Incidentally, Rain was supposed to be about eleven years old.
     
  14. Jort

    Jort Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Maybe Luke had a son with Callista or Shira Brie which was raised like a Sith. :p
     
  15. Rebecca191

    Rebecca191 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Yeah, I meant Rain.
     
  16. Chaotic_Serenity

    Chaotic_Serenity Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The only instance of two dark side users producing a child that I can recall is from The Crystal Star, and that was between Vader's two acolytes Hethrir and...whatever her name is. But the kid, Tigris, wasn't force sensitive, so I'm sure that doesn't count. Hmm...Roganda Ismaren's son may not have been Palpatine's heir, but he was certainly trained in the dark side from very young... That's all I can recall right now. Darth Maul is the only character from canon I can think of that was trained from childhood.

    Generally, I think it's agreed that the dark side isn't "natural," per se. While the emotions that lead to it are very human, using the Force for destructive purposes is sort of the antithesis of its function as a life force, so I genearlly think the dark side is something that has to be taught or tapped into after somebody has had prior force teachings.
     
  17. Jort

    Jort Jedi Padawan star 4

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    That's right CS, I totally forgot about those. Irek's father was Sarcev Quest.
     
  18. Sith-Pirate

    Sith-Pirate Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Didn't one of the kids in Jedi Vs Sith comic become a Sith apprentice at the end? Looked more like 8 or so though.

    I'm sure it was the writer's intention, but I guess it didn't pan out with Rain, since Darth Bane ends up taking on Darth Rivan as his apprentice.

    It sucks though since I thought the idea of Rain becoming a sith apprentice was the only cool thing in the whole comic.

    Rebecca, if you need a new sig, everyone knows you're a die-hard Jaina fan. Why not look through your favorite books and find something cool she said?

    Star by Star or Dark Journey should have something. ;)
     
  19. QuentinGeorge

    QuentinGeorge Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Since Darth Bane ends up taking on Darth Rivan as his apprentice.

    No, he doesn't. Darth Rivan is a completely different Sith Lord who dies at Ruusan.
     
  20. Sith-Pirate

    Sith-Pirate Jedi Padawan star 4

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    My apologies, that's what I get for reading some of the stupid stuff on the net. You know, like the supershadow bantha poodoo?

    Does this mean Rain could have been Bane's first apprentice?
     
  21. QuentinGeorge

    QuentinGeorge Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    My apologies, that's what I get for reading some of the stupid stuff on the net. You know, like the supershadow bantha poodoo?

    Most likely it was speculation from back from the days when the only "Darths" were thought to be Bane's order. KOTOR put an end to that. (And also opened up a barrel of monkeys, but thats for another day.

    Does this mean Rain could have been Bane's first apprentice?

    I asked Tasty about this, and he said, yes, as currently stands, Zannah/Rain is Bane's first apprentice.
     
  22. Le_Sammler

    Le_Sammler Jedi Youngling star 4

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    This is a very interesting concept. It is widely stated that Jedi are not allowed to marry and have children, but what about the Sith? They focus on the emotional aspects of self, ego, possession, etc... you would have to assume that they would want to contine their power line through their own offspring... the ultimate form of arrogance!

    After all, didn't Palpatine have children???
     
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