Battle of Galidraan

How many Jedi fought at the Battle of Galidraan and how many Mandolorians died?

 

Where's Ryan? He could probably answer this better than anyone, though I think all the Mandalorians on Galidraan died besides Jango. However, we've since learned that there are always Mandos elsewhere...

 

Not sure on exact numbers, but casaulities:

. More than half of the Jedi forces

. Nearly all Mandalorians

?Now, excuse me, I'm going to hide before the Mandolorian fan-boys sniff this...

*Leaps into the Hat of K'Kruhk, which whisks me away*

 

I shall hunt you down to the ends of the galaxy, and all Windu-clones like you!!!

 

The way the battle looks like in the comic, it seems there's at least 16 Mandalorians plus however many were guarding the camp while some raided, and maybe about 20 Jedi, with 12 of those dying. Absolutely no more than 40 Jedi all told. That's my opinion from looking at it right now.

 

I just thought of this name on a whim. Sure, Windu's cool, but I'm a clone troopers fan myself.

 

In the comic, we see five Republic DiploShips landing, each transporting eight Judicial crewers, plus an unestablished number of Jedi -- during the Asmeru incident (33 BBY), the cruiser Prominence carried seven Jedi Knights; its sister ship Ecliptic bearing twenty Judicial troops. Having done a panel-by-panel count in Open Seasons, we see no more than eleven Jedi in any one single scene, with five surviving Jedi plus Dooku standing around after Jango's last stand.

Doing the maths, there could be as few as eleven Jedi (two Jedi per ship plus one more, per the panels) to potentially as many as 100 (unlikely, but perhaps, given the Mandalorian strength), although between 20 to 30 seems reasonable for detailing five cap ships plus supporting troops for a planetary governor's interventionary request.

 

Additionally, it would have been a law enforcement mission - establishing guilt and investigating the massacres would also be priorities. And depending on how the Death Watch was 'making' evidence, the team could have been split.

We see 10 jedi bodies in 1 panel, and 1 additional Jedi dies. However, not all of the bodies are necessarily dead (for instance, the kid with the yellow lightsaber looks like he could have survived). Dooku in the first panel has 9 lightsabers total on display.

 

I think those nine are the ones Jango killed himself. Doesn't Palpatine ask how one Force-less man killed so many Jedi?

"With his bare hands..."

And as great as Jango is, I doubt he killed the majority of the Jedi who fell there. I would think that between them the rest of the Mandalorians could at least match Jango's kills.

Or are we to believe that only Jango took anyone out? That would certainly go a long way toward establishing his rep...

 

there were 100 jedi and 100 mandos-99 mandos died and 50 jedi died.

Btw the Mandos keep popping up because they are a culture grou-the protectors were destroyed there but the homeworlds were mandos came from are untouched. plus, since the mandolorians are space Vikings, I'm sure there are people with mandolorian blood in the across the galaxy.

Course, I will say this: Q-M stop threating people with phyical harm or i'll eat your soul. We clear?

 

Those figures are just a tad too neat for my taste. Besides, the NEGTC states that the Jedi outnumbered the Mandos.

I'll tell you this once more in the hope of sparing myself the neccessity of inflicting further pain and anguish:

It's reserved.

 

Those numbers work, but was flipping through the comic series and Abel's article earlier, and didn't find that figure anyplace -- did the True Mando Galidraan headcount come from another LFL source?

 

didnt 2 mandos live? since myles or miles was still alive to be tortured by dooku. heck i'd be surprised if there was a lot more.

 

Silas.

 

oops, my mistake... miles was the guy who got mauled...hehehe. pardon the pun

 

Thing is, we follow Jango through the battle. It doesn't seem like he has time to kill 9. I only see 3-4 kills for Jango. Maybe more if he got a rocket off.

On the other hand, what's Dooku doing with the lightsabers anyway? You'd think surviving padawans or that sort of thing would have a better claim. Maybe those were just the ones that Dooku got his hands on.

Absolute minimum Jedi presence/casualties I see is 17, 9 dead - absolute minimum Mandalorian presence is 16, 15 dead. Jango killing four and the nameless Mando goons killing 5 sounds about right. What I see in the comic is basically a very lethal skirmish.

 

Don't quibble over such minor details. We only see three or four kills for the Jedi.

Nope. They're quite obviously the weapons of Jango's kills.

The one transport shown unloading as an example has eight Jedi exiting it, and possibly more, and there are at least five transports.

Have a care, spoon-bender.

In which (what we may estimate to be) roughly thirty-eight Jedi were killed by a handful of Mandalorians.

 

Wait - how many Jedi survivors were there again that we saw? Dooku, his apprentice, and at least a few others, right? Thirty-eight seems a little high, even for Mandalorians.

And isn't "a very lethal skirmish" the reality of many special ops (which the Mandalorians essentially are) engagements? I'm not sure what you're getting at here, either positive or negative. Clarification, please?

 

I know, that's why I said minimum. That's the minimum figure that doesn't contradict anything in the comic.

Assuming more than 5 transports is also silly. 5 is the number seen in all 3 panels featuring the transports. 8 per transport is 40. There are absolutely not 40 in the part of the skirmish we see. Assuming more than 40 also strikes me as silly. Presumably the other Jedi are attacking the part of the camp we don't see (we only see crates and I think seats, no places to sleep). We know there's at -least- 16 Mandalorians, and probably a good deal more, unless you're implying Jango Fett leaves his camp entirely unguarded while he harrasses mere political activists.

Dooku says 'more than half'. This does not imply a Geneosis-level of Jedi massacre. If he'd meant 2/3ds or 4/5ths, he'd have said that. And it seems a good deal of that was done just by Jango.

 

Sorry, I screwed up my calculations. I meant thirty-two or thirty-three.

 

No matter. My argument doesn't rest on there being more than forty Jetiise hut'uune.

You assume.

You must be from the 'Stan, or thereabouts then, since I'll have to assume that "mere political activists" in your neck of the woods always come complete with assault rifles and body armour.

Because the comic is focused on him.

As for the Geonosis reference, no Geonosis-level massacre can be implied, because there simply weren't that many Jedi present. At the arena, a force numbering perhaps a hundred or more Jedi (or however many there were, my memory's a little fuzzy on the exact figure) were reduced around a dozen. In the case of Galidraan, around forty or so Jedi were cut down to something like six or seven survivors by a small force of Mandalorian mercs. Nowhere near the level of death on Geonosis, but for the Jedi, used to being able to dispatch superior odds as part of their routine, getting thoroughly pounded in a battle by a group of non-Force-sensitives whom they outnumbered would have been quite the blow, and Dooku reveals as much.

 

Yeah, they were expecting quick and easy; I seriously doubt they anticipated any casualties of their own... guilt about killing [relatively] innocent men isn't the only reason Dooku was pissed at the Council.

 

Dooku doesn't talk about it like they were -that- badly pounded. He refers to it as a massacre of the Mandalorians, not by the Mandalorians. The outnumbered thing does not come from the comic. There seems to be several versions of the battle. One has half the Jedi Order involved. I'm sticking with the comic.

Geonosis casualties: 186/212, or 88%

 

IIRC, he says it was "a disaster for all of us", the "last of my foolish errands for the senate. And the Jedi", and "what have we done?". There's no reference anywhere to an exclusively Mandalorian massacre, and Dooku, at the time, is quite obvious shocked by the casualties the Jedi have taken, and then later resentful of it towards his former superiors in the Order.

It is, however, corroborated by the NEGTC, which I'm fairly certain can be assumed to be canon.

"This exaggeration is pointless."

Thanks for that.