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  1. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    The Pulsar Skate depicted in the Rogue Squadron comics heavily contradicts the Rogue Squadron books' description of a twin-engined rear on triangular down-sloped wings.

    [image=http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/a/ab/Baudo.png] [image=http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/d/d3/BaudoGG.png]

    If Michael was consulting with the art team, as I've been told, how did this happen? What is now the official shape? Technically, the skate is an aquatic mantalike creature like the book version.
     
  2. Mange

    Mange Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Not sure (but I do prefer the latter).[face_thinking]
     
  3. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Force Ghost star 5

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    I prefer and love the comic skate, want deckplans!
     
  4. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    Phantom Affair TPB has them, at the back. Concept art.
     
  5. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Force Ghost star 5

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    I know them and love them :) thx, but if any fanon deckplans of the rest exist let me know^^

    btw: the skate is a modified baudo, maybe there are several different styles and types of baudo's. I wonder what the original looks like. definitely not like the baudo we know. someone needs to deconstruct the skate in fanart to get the original look.
     
  6. Gry Sarth

    Gry Sarth Ex 2x Banhammer Wielding Besalisk Mod star 5

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    Well, WEG's books present the stock Baudo as that picture on the right, and you can find an excellent fan-made deckplan of it in the Star Wars Artist's Guild. In my opinion the comics screwed up in coming up with this new, almost completely contradictive, version of the Baudo yacht for the Pulsar Skate.
     
  7. GavinStrife

    GavinStrife Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Wow, the second one is pretty sweet looking, almost like an oversized Jedi starfighter... the first one looks like something out of a space rts or something...
     
  8. RogueWompRat

    RogueWompRat Jedi Youngling star 4

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    The comics version looks far more "Star Warsy" then the one on the right. Plus, isn't something that actually appears in a story higher canon then something from a reference book?

    If you really can't live with it, just say Mirax got a different ship between the comics and books, and called it the same name. Like the Enterprise.
     
  9. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Once upon a time, the Moldy Crow was a WEG-type Baudo, before LucasArts decided to make it less sleek and more, uh, distinguished. See this page from an old PC Gamer magazine for screenshots (the rest of the article can be found at the bottom of this page.)
     
  10. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    Wow, that Dark Forces holo is old. Doom looked just like that.
     
  11. Jedimarine

    Jedimarine Chosen One star 6

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    Is the picture on the left just the ship, cause it looks like a lambda is docked on it's roof.

    If you remove that, then the ship just becomes a blockier version of the sleek model on the right...that can be explained away I would guess.
     
  12. darth_Boba

    darth_Boba Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    [image=http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/2225/sidelg6.jpg]
    Although they are close in general shape, it's not a Lambda.
     
  13. Jedimarine

    Jedimarine Chosen One star 6

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    well not neccessarily a lambda, but alone, does that not look like a shuttle or lander itself?

    Is that image of the skate followed up anywhere else in the comic to confirm the appearance?

    Perhaps not a lambda (though artistic expression when it comes to ships has long been allowed) but it certainly appears to be a second ship hooked to the roof of the Skate.
     
  14. Jedimarine

    Jedimarine Chosen One star 6

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    *Tangent*

    Anyone else think it looks like the ship from Captain Power & the Soldiers of the Future?

    Did I just date myself?
     
  15. Zebra3

    Zebra3 Jedi Master star 5

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    Kinda:
    [image=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/03/Captainpowerxt-7.JPG]

    'Fraid so :p
     
  16. Gry Sarth

    Gry Sarth Ex 2x Banhammer Wielding Besalisk Mod star 5

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    That is indeed how the Pulsar Skate is officially portrayed, even though the Baudo Yacht is obviously different.

    [image=http://starwars.wikia.com/images/c/cc/Pulsarskate.JPG]
    This is from the CCG

    [image=http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/2696/pulsarskatemapqi6.jpg]
    This I believe is from Gamer or something like that?

     
  17. 000

    000 Jedi Master star 4

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    Huh.
     
  18. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Its from the Rogue Squadron: The Phantom Affair TPB.
     
  19. Reaper63

    Reaper63 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Stackpole wrote both the comics and the books, he used the WEG ship as a basis for the Skate. That is why the writen description matches the ship on the right.

    When it came time to draw the comics, I have heard there was a licensing issue with the WEG ship so they designed something different. Something that doesn't match the description That was written first (I again believe that the novels were written first, then followed by the comics)

    It was also written in the Novels that the Skate that Mirrax shows up in was in fact teh same ship that Booster Terric used when Corran's father was chasing him, so there wasn't a ship change between the comics and novels.

    The Ship on the Right IS a Baudo Class Yacht. Although cool, the one on the left is just artistic license. not to mention doesn't allow for an X-Wing to piggy back as described in Rogue Squadron.
     
  20. RogueWompRat

    RogueWompRat Jedi Youngling star 4

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    But the comics Baudo appeared in an actual storyline. IMO, that's worth more then a bit from an RPG book.
     
  21. Reaper63

    Reaper63 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    so a picture from a comic overrides a physical description in a novel that matches a picture in a RPG source book?

    To me that's 2 sources to 1
     
  22. jSarek

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    Well, we also have the photorealistic CCG pic.

    Plus, if there truly was some sort of legal wrangle, then we're unlikely to ever see the old design again. That leads me to put weight on the other design.

    Besides, the above WEG pic of a Baudo - the only one I'm aware of - is of an individual, modified ship, the Gilded Lily. Perhaps THAT'S the one that was modified beyond all recognition.
     
  23. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    When a book explicitly describes something and originates it, and later art looks completely different, I tend to go with the book. That's the way it was meant to be, that's the way it's described, and that appearance is generally central to the story. Art routinely deviates from what the books establish.
     
  24. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Wasn't the Baudo also in Pirates & Privateers? IIRC, its silhouette was even identified with another class of ship once... [face_thinking]
     
  25. jSarek

    jSarek VIP star 4 VIP

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    Drat, yes it was. Forgot about that one. Still, it is just a silhouette, and a tiny one at that . . .
     
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