Andor Bix Caleen

No thread for her yet, from what I could see, but I imagine she will have a part to play in the season finale. Do you expect some sort of hope for her, or is she destined to be the personification of the Empire´s oppression in Andor´s life?

 

I don’t think she’s gonna survive the finale

 

I didn't much like Bix at first but sure she didn't deserve that what Empire did to her. She is totally broken.

 

Eh, throw her in a bacta tank and she'll be fine. That's what the Boba Fett show would do.

 

I love Bix.

 

If she does survive, there’s A LOT of potentially interesting character paths for her moving forward.

 

The Empire has really put Bix through the ringer. All that said, she is still fine as wine!

 

Fate has been cruel with Bix in the series, for sure. She is way out of her depth and guilty (even if mainly by association) in the eyes of the Empire, and with captain (ahem, prefect) Tigo surely wanting to hang her and be done with it, her fate lies in Dedra's hands until her usefulness is exhausted. Still, the absence of Maarva makes it more pertinent to keep her around for now, so it will be interesting to see where this is going for her...

 

Maarva already figured out how to get into the hotel (and told Bix who told Brasso). We will have a few people on planet with experience taking things out of an enemy base and/or committing a prison break. Just saying...

 

Feel bad for Bix, hope she survives this war.

 

I know that Cassian and Bix had a romantic relationship in the past but I wonder if she's going to sorta be a stand-in for Cassian's sister in that Cassian will return to Ferrix and he'll be extra determined not to leave Bix behind. Cassian wasn't able to save/find his sister and he couldn't save his adopted parents but he is going to save Bix.

 

Well, he's certainly going to try at least...

 

Yeah given the state she's in I wonder if there's any way to snap her out of that state. Even if she lives what's her quality of life going to be?

 

Like Bhodi's, I'd guess.

 

Bix next episode: “I’m…I’m the pilot…”

 

She has been put through so much interrogation and torture. Yet she is a typical Rebel not giving away her friends. And despite the rough care, she is still gorgeous. Please someone save her!

 

Finale related, so spoilered:

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Something about the way she said she dreamed Cassian would come, and saw Maarva there too, makes me wonder if Bix is Force sensitive.

 

That was probably not the point at all. She heard Maarva's hologram and Cassian was there, but she has lost her sense of reality.

I never really liked her character much to be honest, but boy was she treated poorly by the Empire. I do feel bad for her, she is just a wreck and has severe PTSD. She surely didn't deserve any of that. She just made some illegal tech business and got caught up in ISB net.

I hope she doesn't recover fully since she know needs to serve as representative of traumatized people, many who never can recover fully. Her recovering fully would make her seem too strong IMO and not realistic. At least unless she is force-sensitive that changes the rules a bit. Now she is proof of what the Empire is and what it does to ordinary people. Why it is reign to be fought against.

Maybe she recovers enough to function as active rebel, but still has PTSD episodes or nightmares from time to time. That would work. Force-sensitivity wouldn't work that well. Empire would've noticed and inquisitorius would become involved. Her reaction however was typical and nothing unusual was discovered.

 

I absolutely agree with you, I was thinking the same thing. I felt a very good choice to set Bix to be a true victim of the evilness that is the Empire, instead of having her wear off the damage inflicted upon her in a moment´s notice and without help. She will hopefully, at the very least, remain traumatized by her experience in season two... in terms of storytelling, of course. Not that I have anything about her as a character.

 

I don’t see why “Empire” would have noticed Bix’s force sensitivity. She was interrogated by some intelligence spooks. What do they know about that mystical mumbo jumbo?

 

The only negative I have of the season is that Bix didn’t get to shoot Dedra in the face.

 

That's a consequence of a show that simply doesn't do cheap thrills.

 

I think Bix's shattered and fragile state is important motivation for Cassian. She won't be getting much better when he catches up. I feel like torture with that headset would screw anyone up just as bad even if they were force sensative.

 

Well that was mainly my speculation there. I think it was established in Rebels that Empire has certain rules about reporting unusual individuals even in stormtrooper training. So in interrogation Bix, if force-sensitive could perhaps resist torture unusually well. She didn't, she was affected just like any normal individual would. Sure Empire doesn't know much about "mumbo jumbo" part of the Force, but they may know know a thing or two about individuals with unusual "M-count" possessing extraordinary capabilities Emperor is interested in. Not sure if that knowledge is limited to secret projects though, might be. I refer to Mandalorian character Doctor Pershing of course. Maybe he was an exceptionally well educated in that though, but I think for internal logic there has to be some way imperial doctors know about the force-sensitivity. Since it's a fact in-universe. Even if talking about it is taboo, there is some way to transfer normal cases for classified inquisition sorcerer's ways stuff. Imperial officers are aware of such a thing being lead by Vader.

However in Obi-Wan Kenobi and even in ANH Leia was not recognized as force-sensitive even when in interrogation, but she proved to be a tough nut to crack. At least partially due to her sensitivity I think. Bix didn't know what she was asked about and didn't prove herself to be unusual in anyway.

Although it's true that there are no evidence to say Bix is definitely not force-sensitive, but I think there is no reason to think she is either. She has not done anything "supernatural" or shown any sign of being any way unusual. Sure it's not ruled out, but there are no evidence for her force-sensitivity either. I just thought it would have perhaps shown in her interrogation. But sure even trained jedi can be traumatized, I just think not as easily as normal person. And I think Bix is just normal person.

I tend to disagree with this. I think obviously torture and stuff will hurt even jedi or traumatize them, but they would probably fare much better in at least some cases compared to normal person. Especially if trained of course. But sure they would still take damage of such a thing. In case of that dizonites though it could be that force-sensitives would be even more traumatized though since they would perhaps feel the pain of massacre more strongly. Any way I think it's obvious force-sensitivity affects such things, but in which way hard to say actually.

Since we are discussing about fiction we may have different idea how it would work without either of us being wrong. And we cannot test it for real (also it would still be unethical test, even if possible...) So anyway, this is my take on this issue. I think we would need to have canonical evidence to settle this.

In the end I think it would be important story-wise to have character who is not jedi, not sith, not force-sensitive or minority alien or anything unusual to be victim of imperial brutality. It illustrates the fact that Empire can hurt anyone. Sure Bix had done some crimes, but nothing that serious she would've deserved such a treatment.