Blasters vs Amphistaffs

So, each Yuuzhan Vong warrior has a melee weapon that's the equivalent of a lightsaber, and wears armor that can absorb blaster shots to a good degree. The typical New Republic soldier probably has a blaster rifle and maybe some light armor that doesn't do anything against an amphistaff. The Vong guy charges in at full speed, while the human fires away, maybe getting in a few hits, depending on how good he is. But if the Vong guy gets within swinging range, it's all over for the human. My question would be, how does the poor guy with the blaster stand a chance? There aren't enough Jedi to go around, so what does a typical infantry battle between the two look like?

The only analogy I can think of is Marines vs Zealots in Starcraft, and that usually doesn't end up as a pretty sight for the Marines ^^

 

I seem to recall several instances of headshots taking the Vong down quickly.

 

Depends on whether its an actual battle or just some poor slob with an E-11 facing off against a Vong at twenty paces. Empire and NRDF support weapons like the A-280K sniper rifle (think Barrett M-82) and T-21 heavy blaster (think, well, some kind of really big, .50 caliber medium MG) can cut fully armoured Stormtroopers in half and punch through armored vehicles, and the tripod-mounted E-Web support weapon can vaporize man-sized targets out to 500 meters.

 

One question, when did an E-Web ever vape a man at 500 meters?

And, Ranged-Weapons always win against Melee.

 

One question:

When did this become Comic Book Rumbles?

 

And it's also a valid question. Because I have yet to see that damage done to a human being by an E-Web bolt. Confirmation is needed to prove that happened!</Foamy>

 

Typically (at least, as far as Ruin, which is as far as I've read) the Vong infantry was mainly composed of those lizard slave things with actual Vong filling a more Jedi-like role, so the fights were a little more fair.

 

Well, your going to have to keep waing, because there's no way you can actually "see" an E-Web doing it. You can only read about it, in the The Essential Guide to Weapons and Technology, extra exclamation marks not included.

 

Well the vong war was mostly fought in space...only resistence groups and miltia really fought the ground battles. Sure there were some but still...

That being said, they constantly updated the power on those blaster and I think by unifing force they might have been able to blast through the vong armor.

If not then headshots and armpits were exposed.

PS vong also had thud and razor bugs to attack while they charged so ground was one sided unless you had Jedi.

 

Also figure that the Vong (or anyone in the SW universe) can drop in fairly close to thier target, as just about every craft has vertical take of and landing repulsorlifts. This drastically cuts the time that they are exposed to long range fire. When they can pull this off, you get a massacre. When they can't, you get Dantooine or Borleias.

M_C: Typically, a squad is not equipped with that many heavy weapons or sniper rifles. Thus, while a single skilled sniper can certainly mow down any number of Vong, it's both a question of how often he has the chance to do so and how many of them are their. E-Webs can provide a devestating hail of firepower, but they appear to be semi-fixed weapons (more of a Maxim Gun than an MG-42). Thus, they are prone to getting outflanked.

And cut SSM a little slack. While he may often wonder off into the trollish, illogical, and bizarre, this time he was asking a legitimate and fair question. If he starts talking about how Goku could have wiped out the Vong with one blast because he has a power level of eleventy kajillion, then feel free to mock.

 

Emphasis on heavy weaponry (T-21s galore!), explosives, and solid targeting of the weak spots (they were already experts doing this against the stormies; no reason they couldn't do it now). Basically, cancelling their orders for more E-11s and putting in a bunch for T-21s and Westars.

 

Errant blaster bolts may bing off that ridiculous idiocy of armour, but not concentrated shots, as we've seen in Ruin. Depends on blaster type too. Or author preference; you've seen how utterly overpowered these cretins are, in anything.

 

You know, blaster proof armor is hardly ridiculous....

 

The idea of head-shots is a good one. Biologically, if we assume Vong are near-human in the brain casing, the sloped forehead would mean the brain is less well-protected and a precise headshot should be easily fatal (actually it should also mean a good thump is worth a try too, but, that was never tried, even by a Jedi, for some reason lol!)

 

True, C19, but not when everything about an enemy is better than the opposition, each time. Height, weight, lifespan, armour, ship weaponry, hand weaponry, can't be easily stunned, it never ends.

 

I know, but the T-21 seeems to be more like an MG-42 than a Vickers or M-2 HB, and from what we see in ANH, and also, I think, comics like Empire or Rebellion featuring Stormtrooper squads, ther seems to be as many T-21s per unit as there would be M-249s or M-240s in the U.S. military.

Okay.

 

About the headshot, i remember, that some vong helmets have vizors (hope it is the right word, like in old knights helmets).
Shadoa Shai had one and his subordinate had such a helmet also. So some Vong had a very good protection against headshots (if we assume that the helmet is voondum crab).

 

Ah, lest you forget Dantooine, Ithor, Gyndine, Coruscant, Borleias, and Yuuzhan'tar. There were a fair plenty of ground battles.

 

Yep.

Yes, but as far as I know, only the higher-ranking officers had helmets (some of the lower-ranking warriors I think did,'t even have full body armor), and while a helmet would help, it probably wouldn't do much against a New Republic sniper with an A-280. Those things are supposed to be able to put dents in AT-AT armor. just imagine what would happen if you got smacked in the head with a bolt from one.

 

Guess the NR would be better off had it equipped its soldiers with bryars.

But seriously, I thought they didn't have visors but more like masks. And only the higher ranking Vong.

 

Yeah, but could just any NR trooper hope to wield even a pale imitation Bryar? I doubt it. The Darktrooper weapon was modeled on it, right?

 

Yeah, the recoil alone would send a trooper flying off the planet. Maybe not that good an idea.

 

It actually makes me think of the board game Risk a little. If you can, bring in the cavalry. You want to be rolling three dice to the other guy's one as much as possible....even if that one has an advantage over all of your three. It was a fight for the fate of the galaxy. Soldiers were going to die. People were going to die. So what chance to you have? Pick your battles and make sure that at any given place YOU have the numbers.

If there are 100 Vong against 100 typical soldiers, it will end up in a route. Maybe 10 Vong die and every single Soldier dies. Bad situation. Find where the vong are weak. Get the drop on their 100 guys with 1000 soldiers. Now you have 10 blaster shots coming at each Vong. Outcome will be more like all Vong dead, 30-40 soldiers dead. I think it all came down to tactics. The average group of foot soldiers had better stay on the move untill they find a battle where they vastly outnumber the Vong. Don't stand one to one against them....stand 10 to one. If you don't get those odds, flee.

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