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Discussion in 'Literature' started by ColeFardreamer, Aug 24, 2023.

  1. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    I noticed that despite KDY and Kuat being canon and as per RotS Senator movie canon even or TCW tv canon, Disney prefers to use Corellia as Imperial Shipyard as ANH referenced the big corellian made cruisers and the EGtW retconned them subcontracting for KDY too but with better quality output than them.

    Now Trevorrows Duel of the Fates Episode IX would have shown a lot of KDY and Kuat.

    Will KDY anytime soon return to galactic importance? Screentimewise that is?

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  2. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I mean it was important in Aftermath II; Kuat's fall was a significant blow.

    Corellia built Star Destroyers, we knew that since ANH so it follows.
     
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  3. TherenAdarni

    TherenAdarni Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Kuat seemingly helped fight off the Rakatans, so they have that going for them.
     
  4. Alpha-Red

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    I always wondered, why did the Legends EU have KDY as the designers and builders of Star Destroyers, when ANH very much seemed to imply that "big Corellian ships" were the Star Destroyers?
     
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  5. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Yea I doubt KDY is going anywhere.
     
  6. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    I think it's interesting that Corellia was used. It inclines us to assume they weren't full of imperial infiltrators.
     
  7. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Well um about that

    they are full of imperial loyalists
     
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  8. comradepitrovsky

    comradepitrovsky Jedi Master star 4

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    There's been some downturns in the economy. Kuat has become Space Detroit.
     
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  9. Nobody145

    Nobody145 Force Ghost star 5

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    EU-wise they'll keep going for a long time considering they build the First Order and Sith Eternal fleets, at least they do as Kuat-Entralla.
     
  10. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Corellia joins the First Order voluntarily soooooooo.

    Sal-Solo and his Human League did their bit. ;)
     
  11. The Positive Fan

    The Positive Fan Force Ghost star 4

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    It's a good question. It stems back to the WEG Star Wars Sourcebook, which was the first source to establish that KDY manufactured Star Destroyers (first source to ever mention KDY, in fact) and was the first time the "big Corellian ships" reference was seemingly missed. Who knows why, although here's a true story: to my ears, it has never sounded like Han says "Corellian." I know that's the line because I read The Art of Star Wars a zillion times and that's what's in the script, but it always sounds to me like Harrison Ford is saying "Kerellium" or something to that effect. He kind of mumbles the word, as if he's uncertain how to say it (tying directly to his famous quote to GL - "You can type this ****, but you sure as hell can't say it"). I wonder if Curtis Smith and Bill Slavicsek, the authors of the Sourcebook, similarly misheard the line and from there just didn't make the connection? Sort of a weird, random little theory, but who knows?
     
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  12. Dream-Thinker

    Dream-Thinker Jedi Master star 4

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    Oh jeez, did they?

    They really are the US of Star Wars.
     
  13. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    @Dream-Thinker - yup, mentioned in Star Wars: Resistance Reborn and confirmed in Star Wars Timelines as almost immediately after the First Order goes public.
     
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  14. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Joining the neo space fascists not a good look Corellia.
     
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  15. Dream-Thinker

    Dream-Thinker Jedi Master star 4

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    Weren't Corellia bad in one of the later Legends series? Maybe it's a nod to that.
     
  16. SiouxFan

    SiouxFan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Pretty much fits with their secession-of-the-decade motif from the EU, though. Bunch of malcontents, you ask me.
     
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  17. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 10

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    Come to think of it - they make a crapton of cash by building death machines. You can't say you didn't know a Star Destroyer was bad. So joining the FO, to build the even bigger bastard Star Destroyers and get paid for doing so? Yep, checks out.
     
  18. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    How i miss Corellia putting Coruscant and Alsakan into their place and ending their conflicts.... By force!

    As to the Stardestroyers, i guess we need a new gimmick for Kuat to return to fame. Even if their Legends lore still exists in Disney, Kuats role needs expansion. Its Senator was talking with Mon Mothma and Bail and Padme in RotS. Bounty Hunter Wars Trilogy had it switch sides way too easily. Despite Imperial company its politics were more complex and pro Rebel at times.

    Maybe we should bring back and expand on its rich culture like the Telbun system. Or their secret control codes for all vessels they built. Which may not account for or work on corellian made KDY stuff which is why the Empire had KDY built there a lot too maybe?

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  19. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I mean Corellia left the Republic 23 times. It’s not a good flex.
     
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  20. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Corrllia should just make up it’s mind
     
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  21. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    17 times for each Alsakan Conflict; once joining the Second Sith Empire; another secession in 500 BBY, a further in 22 BBY, let alone in 18 ABY and then 40 ABY.
     
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  22. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Force Ghost star 4

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    Current writers don't care. All they care about is "The High Republic".
     
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  23. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Yes because that’s what they are hired to do. It’s not like they can write about whatever they want. That’s not how publishing works. High republic ends at least as a major publishing initiative after Phase 3. In 2025 if I recall.
     
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  24. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Force Ghost star 4

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    Sweet. More lore building of the Disney canon please. It feels lacking.
     
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  25. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 10

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    The idea that DR is only putting out HR is total bollocks, they've put out more non-HR books across the same span.

    There's been five HR novels, in the same time there's been at least one Thrawn Ascendancy book, Princess & Scoundrel, Brotherhood, Shadow of the Sith, Jedi: Battle Scars, Inquisitor: Rise of the Red Blade.