"Cade Skywalker is not as Good of a Man..... (Legacy Spoilers)

There has been considerable debate over the years as to whether or not Sith think they are doing good but are actually evil or if they know full well they are evil. Darth Krayt has been a big part of this question at times.....with his apparent desire to bring order to the galaxy and make it strong again. His followers at the very least seem brainwashed to believe it.

With that in mind, the dialog at the end of Legacy 17 between Krayt and Talon seemed curious. "He was pulled back from the Edge by those close to him - allies and friends who still sensed good in him. Cade Skywalker is not as good of a man as that Jedi of old..."

I can't take this any way but as an admission by Darth Krayt that says "I am evil, the Sith are evil, the Jedi are Good, and I understand this completely. This is the truth and anything I say to others is merely propaganda!"

Anyone have thoughts about this?

 

I think that Darth Krayt and the Sith all recognize they're not "good" people. They, however, don't think that being good is something that serves the galaxy. There's plenty of Real-Life people, let alone fictional people, that believe that being a Good person is a sucker's game and it's better to be ruthless and pragmatic.

 

But who considers themselves evil? Going against a majority held concept or isn't the same as declaring your moral stance wrong. At least those who consider themselves "bad" people think they're right to some degree otherwise they wouldn't be doing whatever it is that's made them defy social opinion.

To say you're evil is to say you're not yourself... isn't it?

 

i got your answer right here...

"power, unlimited power"

need i say more?

 

In real life, a lot of people consider themselves evil.

As you stated, a problem is that a lot of people don't consider "evil" to be bad. Which is something that some people have trouble wrapping their minds around.

BUT a lot of people in real life are aware they're EVIL EVIL in which they're monsters and enemies of all that's good in society, they just don't care.

 

I highly doubt that Krayt considers himself evil. He doesn't think he's a nice guy, an upstanding guy. But I think he's more like Jacen Solo in that he feels he's doing the right thing by sacrificing his own squeaky-cleanness to bring a greater good to the galaxy. It's a very complicated sort of self-justification in which he confesses that he's transgressing traditional boundaries which may be fine for most people in pursuit of some greater, noble goal which can only be achieved through acceptance of the dark. "I'm being evil for the greater good. I've taken this burden on myself so no one else has to, because I can bear it. But clearly it's not really evil, since it's for the greater good. It's just . . . an evil kind of good. That's right. I'm not good. But I'm not, like, evil or anything."

 

I fully think Krayt might think he's damned in the Dracula sense.

You know, I'm a monster and embodiment of evil.

But I'm a REGAL monster and you better damn well bow.

 

I find it hard to compare Jacen and Krayt because of the fact that Jacen is practically insane and is acting in a pretty erratic fashion with a seemingly small understanding of what it is he's trying to do. "I'm going to bring peace to the galaxy. The best way to do that is to blow the Falcon out of the Sky! Hahaha!" Krayt is more level headed and seems like he is at least honest with himself. He also has some pretty clear direction. 1. Kill Roan Fel. 2. Get healed. 3. ????? 4. Profit! By Ruling the galaxy!

The Quote that I based this post on makes me think Krayt fits the description that you said, while Jacen still seems to think he's a really good guy for giving up everything to uhm, save the galaxy or something.

I am curious to see Legacy 18, which seemingly will show us the exact motive behind Krayt's actions. I'm assuming it has something to do with the Vong and the Embrace of Pain, but I would hope it's a bit more than that...

 

I'm talking the Jacen of Betrayal and Bloodlines -- before the dark side really got into him, when he was heavy on the justification and rationalization and for-the-greater-good logic.

 

Does Jacen think he's not really "in the Dark Side"? Because I can give LoTF some credit if he had the same train of thought that Luke had in DE when he agreed to be trained by Palpatine (and presumably, Cade has when he decided to be turned by Krayt). If he honestly thought that he would have to use the Dark Side only as necessary, but be able to escape it or something, then it's slightly more believable than "why doesn't anyone like me, I'm doing good!!!1111"