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Can a lightsaber cut another lightsaber?

Discussion in 'Fan Films, Fan Audio & SciFi 3D' started by Toranaga81, Jul 16, 2003.

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  1. Toranaga81

    Toranaga81 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Is it true that a lightsaber can never be used to cause damage to another lightsaber? I heard this from somebody and never knew that was the case. Is it protected by the force or some crap?
     
  2. Slave-2

    Slave-2 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I'm sure I read somewhere that dark force users lightsabers can cut the beam in the lightsaber of light side users. Has something to do with the crystal that the dark force users have in their sabers.
     
  3. GreatlyDisturbing

    GreatlyDisturbing Jedi Youngling

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    I read somewhere that red sabers do more damage but are more prone to 'problems' than blue/green ones. It was suggested they could cut through blue/green sabers, but the nature of the 'problems' was never elaborated on.

    Anyone know more?
     
  4. DarthArjuna

    DarthArjuna Jedi Knight star 5

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    [longlightsaberrant]The color really doesn't have much to do with the blade quality. However, both are affected by the type of crystal that the sabers use. A bad crystal will, in some cases, blow up your lightsaber (Tenel Ka), but will usually just short the blade. Blades are made of pure energy, and as such cannot be damaged except by the inner workings of the hilt. That's why when Maul's saber was cut only one blade remained- the mechanisms for the other were destroyed (making many FanFilm stunts impossible, but who cares). The only thing known to come into contact with a blade and cause damage to it is cortosis ore, which, when it hits the blade, sends a feedback loop down to the hilt, causing it to short circuit. It can be turned on again without any problems, but if your blade is out for even a second it could spell death.

    Long story short- blades cannot affect each other. Cortosis ore, a solid material, can, but it's brittle and not a good idea for a sword.[/longlightsaberrant]
     
  5. scudknight

    scudknight Jedi Youngling star 3

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    so what is vader's armor made of? looks like it can deflect a pretty decent hit with minimal damage.
     
  6. Scimitar

    Scimitar Jedi Youngling

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    According to starwars.com the armored areas of vader's suit are made of dense durasteel.

    Cortosis was introduced in the EU.
     
  7. Jedi_KNick

    Jedi_KNick Jedi Padawan star 4

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    OMG! Okay, if you have to things that can cut basically anything and they hit each other, one's cut power crosses out the other's cut power.

    -KNick
     
  8. Gaab

    Gaab Jedi Youngling

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    BUT!!!
    what about thumb wars! :D
     
  9. BrentK7

    BrentK7 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Slave-2: Did i say you could use my icon? j/k
     
  10. John2460

    John2460 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    There are two general statments about a red lighsaber. Kaiburr crystals are used, which generate a red blade and also enhance force powers in the user. The other statment is simple red crystals are manufactured to just give it the evil red glow and that's about it.

    If you go by the Kaiburr theory then yes, it can cut through a normal crystal saber blade. In fact, that is one theory as to why Obi-Wan ignighted his saber slowly in A New Hope. He did it to ensure that the saber's strength was at maximum so to prevent Vader from cutting through it.

    Although that makes you wonder why Vader never cut through Luke's saber in ROTJ, since he allways ignited the saber at maximum speed, which would suggest a weaker blade.
     
  11. SithRuler77

    SithRuler77 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    no they can't read up in the Sw official site databank red ones can't either they are red because the sith's use the force to higher their pontency as well as the color until its red. end of discussion its pointless!
     
  12. John2460

    John2460 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Dude, learn to use periods.
     
  13. DyeJedi

    DyeJedi Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Blah, nothing is more powerful then the other, it's just a matter of the low level frequencies put out by the blade, they just vary from crystal to crystal.

    2 blades of pure energy hitting eachother= cancel eachother out= saber lock.
     
  14. DorkmanScott

    DorkmanScott Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Kaiburr crystals are used, which generate a red blade and also enhance force powers in the user. The other statment is simple red crystals are manufactured to just give it the evil red glow and that's about it.

    Um, what?

    There was only one Kaiburr Crystal and it had nothing to do with a lightsaber blade. It did enhance Force powers, but it was entirely different than what you said here.

    Also, the way light works, the color of the crystal INVERSELY affects the color of the blade. I.E. a green blade would actually be produced by a purple amethyst gem, and a purple blade by an emerald.

    Lightsabers cannot cut through each others' blades. CAN however slice through each others' hilts quite easily.

    As for the Vader's armor thing, while a lightsaber can cut through anything, it can't always do it like a warm knife through soft butter. Some materials (like durasteel) take a bit more effort (reference Qui-Gon cutting through the door in TPM), and so a glancing blow like the one Luke made wouldn't necessarily go all the way through.

    Do take note of the fact that Vader still bellowed in pain.

    M. Scott
     
  15. Jedikes1138

    Jedikes1138 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Dorkman is right- the Kaiburr crystals do enhance Force powers as read in (I believe) Splinter of the Minds Eye. However he is wrong on the second part as mentioned in Star Wars Insider issue #62 (flip to page 34 for details). Only the red blades of Sith lightsabers are able to cut throught the blades in combat. However, this is rare. We don't need to see a whole bunch of fanfilms with saber blades being cut all the time. But since when are saber crystals manufactured? These crystals are mined from some planet that I can't remember the name of.
     
  16. SkywalkerG

    SkywalkerG Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    All i can say is holy cow.

    And i thought i was bad at spending too much time with Star Wars


    Are you making a movie about this bro. Or should this question be in another star wars forum?
     
  17. John2460

    John2460 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Drokman, the Kaiburr crystal could be used in creating a lightsaber, Luke even said this in Splinter of the Mind's Eye. But the only problem was the crystal couldn't be taken from Circarpus without lossing it's power.
     
  18. Koohii

    Koohii Jedi Master star 5

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    I can't believe there's such a huge debate on this...

    My Take:
    Saber blade is pure energy. How can you "cut" energy? You can't. You can interrupt it, but that's about it. As for turning on the blade slowly and all the other stories/justifications, I consider them so much BS.

    Does it matter what color a saber is? No. Adi Gailia has a RED blade, and she's on the jedi council. One of the reasons Luke's lightsaber was changed to green for RotJ was not just so that everyone would realize it was a new saber, but also color theory--Green contrasts better against Red.

    As for the crystals, one story was that whenever possible, it's best to use natural crystals because they are more in tune with the force, but manufactured crystals can be used if necessary.
     
  19. DarthArjuna

    DarthArjuna Jedi Knight star 5

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    ...I hated Splinter. It's the only novel that I've considerd completely un-canon (others I exclude pieces, like the White Current, but never before a whole book).

    Also, the way light works, the color of the crystal INVERSELY affects the color of the blade. I.E. a green blade would actually be produced by a purple amethyst gem, and a purple blade by an emerald.

    I never made that connection. Thanks!

    Original saber crystals were mined on... oh, I forget the planet's name. But any crystal of sufficient lattice strength can be used (no glass crystals- again, Tenel Ka). They can be manufactured or mined. And red is not just a Sith color, nor is red the only Sith color. Leia had a "ruby red" saber, as opposed to the Sithly "blood red" (may not even be a difference but for the wording connotation). Also... ummm... Darth Blight!
     
  20. Figrin-Dan_Man

    Figrin-Dan_Man Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Holy god you guys are DORKS!!!!!


    Plus, take note that the Adegan crystal is also used, see 'I Jedi.' Consider also if a dual phase or adjustable-length saber used two DIFFERENT COLORED crystals it could, theoretically, be other than the standard four.






    I like popular things.
     
  21. JaggedConscience

    JaggedConscience Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Luke manufactured a saber crystal in Shadows of the Empire...

    When two lightsabers collide all that happens is they drain energy from each other because the energy isn't returned to the negative polar flux thingy just below the emitter which allows the saber to operate for ages (it's a recharge circuit)
     
  22. DarthArjuna

    DarthArjuna Jedi Knight star 5

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    Thanks, Fig (not for calling us dorks, but for reminding me that it's Adega).
     
  23. The-Matt-Man

    The-Matt-Man Jedi Padawan star 4

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    If it looks cool, use it.
    :/
    -Matt
     
  24. Dalton_Senaska

    Dalton_Senaska Jedi Youngling star 1

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    jaggedconscience -- correct... i forget where i read it but that is the reason that saberists clash their sabers together so often, to drain power from the other's saber and basically hope that the other's saber drains more than their own... supposedly the more pressure put down on the blade, the more power is drained from the other

    figrin-dan_man -- i believe corran horn is known for that dual phase trick and when he extends the blade it changes color, doesn't it?

    dalton
     
  25. durbnpoisn

    durbnpoisn TFN Staff Cast & Crew Database star 5 VIP

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    *cough* NERDS! *cough*


    I love these "Let's discuss the physics of technology in SciFi" threads.

    Recent one's I can remember:
    Would a wookies fur burn from a saber hit?
    Would a saber stop a lead bullet?
    Why doesn't the saber burn the floor?
    If you let go of the hilt, does the blade turn off?
    Does a saber generate heat?
    Does a saber emit light? (duh?)
    Does the blade have weight?

    In every case, there was much debate, and no answer.
    Oddly enough, I just realized that all of the ones I can think of are saber related. How amusing.

    Here are some better questions...
    How exactly do droids feel pain?
    Why do all the rebel's fighters have shields and hyperdrives and the Empire's don't?
    Why do Jawas eyes glow? (And, what are they anyway?)

     
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