Can someone explain the "grey Jedi"

Anybody know any names of any grey jedi and care to explain what a grey jedi truly is?

 

There is no such thing as a Grey Jedi in the Expanded Universe. The Grey Jedi are something fans made up so they can have all the Force powers.

Basically a Grey Jedi is a Jedi who walks the line between the Light and Dark Side of the Force.

 

Indeed, it's a complete Myth...within a myth.


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Actually there are a few Grey Jedi.

Kyle Katarn is a Grey Jedi. Plo Koon might be one.

 

Revan, Kreia (for a time), and the Exile have been rumored to be grey. Of course this is actually personal oppinion at this point because nothing has been stated. This is all from KotOR for those who didn't know.

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Explination: A grey Jedi is either inbetween the light and dark paths or encompasses both equally. The latter would be able to use both sides of the force, while the former is restricted to universal force powers. "Grey" comes from the color of their alignment to the force: Not blue for the light side or red for the darkside, but grey for neutral.

 

CmdrMitthrawnuruodo posted on 6/2/05 3:58pm

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There is no such thing as a Grey Jedi in the Expanded Universe. The Grey Jedi are something fans made up so they can have all the Force powers.

Basically a Grey Jedi is a Jedi who walks the line between the Light and Dark Side of the Force.
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Beat me to it. [face_not_talking] [face_frustrated]

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~Vassago

 

I think that Dooku tried to become a Grey sider, but he got corrupted,and fell to the dark.

 

Dooku has been, and will always be a Sith. So please do not insult him by calling him a "Grey Jedi"

Grey Jedi are those too confused to choose a side.

You are either a Sith or a Jedi.

There is no in-between.

 

Revan and the all those others listed above are not Grey Jedi. The Grey Jedi does not exist nor can it exist in Star Wars. It is impossible to put yourself in the middle of the Force. You are either Dark or Light, there is no inbetween. You can try but the Force will force you to choose your destiny.

 

I did not say that Dooku is a Grey Jedi. he is most definately a Sith. But he tried at one point to become a grey jedi. Read his little bio thingy in the Star Wars RPG Revised Core Rulebook.

To sum it up:

He didn't think that the Chosen One would be some coky, snot-nosed kid. He thought that the Chose One would be someone old and mature, who has a perfect balance of both the lightside and the darkside, someone like him. This is one of the reasons he set out to learn the ways of the Sith (of course, he had always been interested, and hacked his way into a Sith Holocron in the temple when he was a Padawan, Yoda trained him to try and steer him away from the dark path.

 

Kyp Durron.


Though, of course, there is no official thing as a "grey" Jedi. It just refers to a Jedi who doesn't believe that the line between dark and light is so sharp. It refers to a Jedi who is constantly debating the philosophies of the Force, trying to seek enlightenment by attempting to understand every perspective rather than firmly adhering to one side.

 

As has been stated. There is no Grey Jedi in the canon universe of Star Wars.

The closest thing we get is the followers of the Potentium Heresy. However that is flawed as well. In the end the force user either renounces the Potentium and returns to the Jedi or, follows thier path into darkness.

 

Grey Jedi have been around since the TOTJ era at least. They've been referenced in KOTOR II, so they're not strictly a fan idea.

 

A "True Grey" Jedi may not be able to exist but it is an idea. This thread is prrof of that. And like any idea it can be fallowed, not always perfectly.

Jolee Bindo is an official Star Wars character and he was grey. He was force sensative but neither Jedi or Sith. He fallowed his own ideals which was a grey path leaning ever so slightly to the light side.

 

Indeed there is no official standing that states Grey Jedi are among the canon. But as Games and books are brought into light, being of the Grey Jedi has become an option.

Within KOTOR You are able to remain nuetral depending upon your choices. Or you can fall to the Darkside or Claim the path of what is seemingly known as the true way of the Force.

I am very opinionatedon this subject. to read my beleifs on it please read this. Scroll half way down the page to the section entitled Grey Jedi Wisdom.

 

Jolee Bindo...most Exiles are Grey Jedi...

 

Agree with Mitth, Zedd, and the others...

No such thing...

It is an exclusive system. You can only be Jedi or Sith, good or evil. You either use the force or are used by the force. If a Jedi strikes offensively, or goes against the Order, he is no longer a Jedi, but a Sith. You choose peace or violence, emotions or serenity. Even if you are violent only sometimes, then you are emotional and therefore a Sith. One cannot be both selfish and selfless, both contemplative and violent. Even if you just a little bit dark, you are no longer in the light.

Yoda spoke correctly when he said about "starting down the Dark Path."

This is not to say that conversions are not possibile. Jedi can corrupt to Sith and Sith can reform to Jedi. But you are never permanently in an in-between state.

 

It is an exclusive system. You can only be Jedi or Sith, good or evil. You either use the force or are used by the force. If a Jedi strikes offensively, or goes against the Order, he is no longer a Jedi, but a Sith. You choose peace or violence, emotions or serenity. Even if you are violent only sometimes, then you are emotional and therefore a Sith. One cannot be both selfish and selfless, both contemplative and violent. Even if you just a little bit dark, you are no longer in the light.

you are incorrect my friend. if the above stament is true then Dark Jedi do not exist either. to be a Sith you cannot Simply just deny the Jedi Way and become a Dark Sider. you must learn the Exclusinve Sith Magics froma mater or self study them to mastery.

This is why when Dooku found Asajj Ventress and she claimed to be Sith Dooku laughed and said she wasn't. She did not know the true Sith magics and woud not be taught them due to the rule of two.

Thouhg I did admit that Grey Jedi ahve not been canonized, I also hod to the fact that neutrality can be maintained within the Force. Look at all the other Races that sue the Force, The Aung Tii monks, the Jensaari, and many many others....That remain Nuetral, though their powers are far less advanced than that of the Jedi, Dark Jedi and the Sith.

 

That is such a crock. Dark Jedi have nothing to do with this supposed grey jedi BS. Asajj was a Dark Jedi, which is in essence simply a force adept that has found some means of formal training, but never attached themselves to a specific ideal (such as the Jedi or the Sith). Instead of working for the greater benefit of either the Jedi or the Sith, they work the for the greater benefit of themselves, and usually nothing else.

Over and over again it has been stated that there is a dark side, and a light side. In a Yin-Yang, is there grey? No. Because there is no room, and no need for it. The dark and light halfs create a perfect balance on their own, without the need for some cockamamy grey addition. Argue all you want, but any force adept not attached to a specific ideal (Jedi or Sith) is technically considered a Dark Jedi, and they cannot hope to rival the power that either a Sith, or a Jedi can acheive.

 

It looks like Jedi or Sith who limit themselves to one side or the other, without even delving into the opposite, aren't as strong, lacking a vital part. shrug. I really dont know.

That is exactly the point. Dark Siders (Sith), concentrate on manipulating the dark side of the force, excluding the light side. The Jedi, focus on understanding the light side, excluding the dark side. Does that not sound balanced to you?

What is the need for yet another group to create balance in a system that is already balanced? What would be the point of that? It sounds redundant to me.

 

Revan and the all those others listed above are not Grey Jedi. The Grey Jedi does not exist nor can it exist in Star Wars. It is impossible to put yourself in the middle of the Force. You are either Dark or Light, there is no inbetween. You can try but the Force will force you to choose your destiny.

That's not necessarily true, Vergere was a Grey Jedi of sorts. As to the actual naming of such, no, there's no such thing. There is a theory within the Jedi Order that there is no dark side and that these views are relative (which I abscribe to), but that's about it.

 

The Force weilders Corran Horn fought in I, Jedi were sort of grey. They didn't use the darkside, but followed the Sith teachings. And weren't entirely good because they helped the Admiral chick.

 

They are Jedi who thought they have conpleated their training. What are they? They are Jedi that are not light or dark. They also work out the order but haven't gone to the darkside