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Can Vader take off the suit?

Discussion in 'Star Wars Community' started by storyteller1, May 30, 2005.

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  1. storyteller1

    storyteller1 Jedi Youngling

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    After seeing Episode III, I am wondering if Darth Vader can completely take off his suit? I know that he can remove the helmet and mask inside of his special chamber, but can he totally take off the suit?

    I know that in SHADOWS OF THE EMPIRE, he was descibed as sitting naked in his meditation chamber, but it looks like he was actually built into the suit.

    Does anyone know?
     
  2. WLDB

    WLDB Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I wouldnt be surprised. He lived quite some time without it after being burned to a crisp.
     
  3. storyteller1

    storyteller1 Jedi Youngling

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    I don't think that his replacement limbs looks real, like Luke's did. I think they LOOKS robotic. You have to wonder what he looked like without the suit on, or if he upgraded his robotic parts or what happened.

     
  4. SKSeven

    SKSeven Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Well, his new[er] robotic arm and his legs appear to be directly attatched to him, so they're, for all intents and purposes, not part of his suit. They're prosthetics attatched to him, much like his first robotic arm is.

    I believe that if he was in a specially made room, with severely controlled climate and air pressure levels, he probably could live for some time. His body would have naturally healed itself to the extent that it could, so he could have probably survived certain circumstances.
     
  5. DarthSurge

    DarthSurge Jedi Youngling star 1

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    vader s suite is attached to him therefor not a possible chance he could take off his suit, the only things able to remove would be his legs , his left arm and his mask
     
  6. WLDB

    WLDB Jedi Padawan star 4

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    He must have to clean himself. The only way to do that is to remove the suit.
     
  7. brook_33

    brook_33 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    i think he really need only the mask, but can survive with out it for a short time, or maybe just not function fully without it.
     
  8. DS615

    DS615 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    His meditation chamber allows him to exist outside of his suit.

    His replacement limbs aren't attached to the suit. It's just a suit.

    What do you think he does if it rips or gets dirty?

     
  9. Sith-Jedi-Master

    Sith-Jedi-Master Jedi Padawan star 4

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    i don't think that anyone has come close to ripping his suit...lol...apart from Luke...although i carn't remember him doing it without...cutting of his arm..

     
  10. DS615

    DS615 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The injuries we see in RotJ are more than what we saw in RotS, so at some point after the suit he was smacked around pretty good.

    I imagine his suit got dirty and ripped then.

    I don't see whay anyone would think he can't take it off. It's just clothing. Sure it serves a purpose, but so does a divers suit.

     
  11. arabiansanchez

    arabiansanchez Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Err...I think you'l find his injuries in ROTS are pretty bad next to ROTJ.

    He's been healing and possibly getting treatment for 20-odd years after the Mustafar incident.
     
  12. DS615

    DS615 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Err...Look at the X-rays.

    The damage visible in RotJ (via the X-ray effect from the lightning) is beyond the damage done in RotS.

    Do you actually think Vader did nothing for the twety or thirty years between movies?

     
  13. arabiansanchez

    arabiansanchez Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It was an effect put in at the last minute because it was 'cool', not to show you the extent of Anakin's damage.

    Claiming his ROTJ 'X-ray' shows more extensive damage than being set on fire and burned to a near crisp in ROTS is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.
     
  14. DS615

    DS615 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Yeah. Uh, huh.

    The ILM folks researched the required spinal injuries to explain his behavior as a "last minute effect". Ha!

    You're a victim of the GL PT mentality. Not everything he ever did was as hacked together and last minute as the PT is. It couldn't be, it's only the new tech that allows him to do things so wierd.

    Ignoring the films to cling to preconceived notions is licking the dirt below the barrel.

     
  15. Arwen Sith

    Arwen Sith Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Umm, in any case it's interesting to speculate about Vader's metabolism. He obviously has one as he breathes, but does he ever eat anything (and thus need to void it), or is it the Force itself that's keeping him alive? He didn't manage to save Padmé, but perhaps himself? If so, what sustains the Force?

    I only know SW from the movies, so if this is explained in a novel or encyclopedia, I'm still in the dark.
     
  16. PrinceHector

    PrinceHector Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I think he could, if he was in a special chamber for a very limited time (like in ESB), but if he just took off his suit in a normal environment (e.g. the hanger in ROTJ) he would die without it.

    I think that Palpatine reached him in time during that scene in ROTS, but had Anikan stayed like that he would have eventually burned to a crisp. Maybe that time some of his eternal organs had started to become affected, and would require the suit in order to fix. But the legs and arms were probably just prosthetic, just used for movement or manipulation.

    I think that (on second thoughts) in ROTJ, if he had just taken his mask off for thirty seconds or whatever, it would not have killed him, and those injuries were from the Sith lightning. (I'm assuming that he did not need the mask to breathe though)

     
  17. classified

    classified Jedi Master star 4

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    He only ever can take his helmet off in the pod thing. Otherwise he'd die. But how does he take a slash?
     
  18. arabiansanchez

    arabiansanchez Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    DS615, I've just looked at the shots in question. Yes, Vader has some quite nasty injuries. Don't think it's anything more than an overlooked detail though.


    As for having a some sort of PT syndrome. No dear. Believe it or not I was around in the 80s and was probably more astounded seeing the OT movies than yourself. I was 3, 4 and 5 respectively. Don't try and pull some sort of fanboy rank over me.

    As for the suit and the toilet business...I'm guessing some form of regular procedure he goes through to cleanse, like dialysis?
     
  19. sayon

    sayon Jedi Youngling star 1

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    No not at anytime he wants from what i know.
     
  20. SecondBest

    SecondBest Jedi Youngling star 6

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    How would he go to the bathroom?
     
  21. Drac39

    Drac39 Chosen One star 6

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    He can in the special chambers built for him to take it off
     
  22. Evan_The_Great

    Evan_The_Great Jedi Padawan star 4

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    he can probably take off some parts of the suit but keep in mind that the reason for the suit was because his lung was burnt up on mustafar
     
  23. SITHLORDCAMEL

    SITHLORDCAMEL Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Possibly!
     
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