Center of the galaxy

According to Swarm War p341, a black hole lies in the galactic center. What do you think?

Does anyone have more EU references as to what's said to lie in the middle?

 

You mean, more specifically "center" than the Deep Core?

Supermassive black hole is the obvious choice, not only because of the ref in The Swarm War, but because of the fact that modern astrophysics seems to think that's what you normally find at the center of galaxies.

 

I'm talking the very center of the galaxy, not the central region. Super black holes are a popular use in literature, I know that inept-designed game Homeworld 2 had them.

I've often wanted to see Star Wars show more exotic locales than just "Unknown Regions"--which, mind you, you don't actually see--like the galactic center, or something cool at the very tips of the spirals, or even an adventure stranded in Wild Space, the void between the mass core and spiral branch.

 

Well.....as said above, supermassive black holes are generally accepted as being in the center of all galaxies, and probably responsible for it's formation in the first place.

So it doesn't seem odd or anything.

 

Since the universe is expanding infinitely in all directions, the center is relative to whatever position you choose.

No, wait, I'm sorry...it's relative to the position of Kyle Katarn.

 

are you calling HIM fat?? cause i'm pretty sure that's a capital crime in the Empire


anyway, yeah, spiral galaxy centers=black holes seems to be a pretty consistent thing at least at this end of the universe. now, it would be cool to get a story set in that area. perhaps a story about some Jedi fleeing Sith or vice-versa (as only Force users should be able to navigate in that region, as it'd be like the Maw only bigger and worse). if it's Jedi on the run, would be during the Dark Times or LEGACY. Sith on the run could be pre-Prequals, a Banite Sith trying to flee from the Jedi.

 

One has to wonder just how far into the Core the Empire's hyperspace routes went... and if Pellaeon shared all of them with Han & Leia. I believe it stated that the Empire had routes through the core, but they definitely had routes into the core as well (see: Ebaq 9). Perhaps there's been an Admiral Daala-esque force chilling next to the Black Hole for decades.

 

Galaxy =/= universe.

Yes, the universe revolves around Kyle Katarn - but the GFFA and other galaxies follow a complicated series of epicycles to make it *appear* otherwise.

Kyle installed the epicycles himself. Now, people have to come up with more creative methods of running from Kyle than "flee the center of the universe!", thus making the hunt more interesting.

 

I guess it's a blackhole then.

Until DNT I was under the impression is was simply a exponentially greater number of stars and celestial bodies packed in tighter and tighter until hyperspace travel became theoretically improbable to function. This was from some the earliest "Core" references (WEG perhaps?)

Now my guess would be that everyone "knows" there is a blackhole at the exact center...just no one has ever gotten there...or atleast returned from it.

Now correct me if I'm wrong astrophysicians...but if there is a super-blackhole at the center of each galaxy...wouldn't that warrant a MASSIVE "void" in the most prominent gravitational reach of the blackhole? There certainly would be a clustering, but then you'd break through into empty space...of course at that point, your doomed, but still...There should be a void inside the deep core thousands of lightyears in size...a hollow center as it were.

 

Not thousands of lightyears in size... Depends on the mass of the black hole, but at least in our galactic core there are stars far less than a light year from the black hole on orbits whose completion takes only a few decades. One should theoretically get very close to the black hole and still be able to escape.

 

Well, if I remeber correctly, the mass of a black hole is not the same as it's actual size, being many times greater, but I can't recall exactly....

 

Ris_jSarek =/= sense of humor

 

Me fail humor? That's unpossible!

 

The actual size is relatively small except in the case of supermassive - billions of times more massive the Sun - black holes whose event horizon is so large that they supposedly could swallow a whole star, when even the black hole in the center of our galaxy could not.

 

You're basically right. Spiral galaxies are likely to have singularities at the center, but it's also true that matter is packed in more and more densely as one travels closer to the center. In the case of our galaxy (which is a spiral just like the GFFA), the middle 25% or so probably should not be able to support life because the superclusters of stars are just too dense (dense by space standards, that is, which is a very different thing from what we think of as dense in everyday life ).

I was pleased that they eventually stopped making maps that showed Coruscant right at or around the center of the galaxy and moved Coruscant a little further off-center, but it's still not far enough out to be believable as a habitable planet and solar system, IMO.

This is one of many reasons why I believe Star Wars should be considered fantasy and not true science fiction, because the science is so off much of the time. As much as I hate to admit it, KJA was somewhat better than most of the other authors in trying to keep things scientifically feasible.

 

Um, he blew up suns by firing radiation energy into them, energy that still survived the thouands of klicks it took from launch to target, that still had cohesion as it entered the furnace atmosphere.

Still, aside from his teen writing, his Academy trilogy was well written.

 

Yeah, I thought so. There's also the fact that the SMBH's in most galaxies are in not active, or something like that, which means they are not consuming anything and would make it a lot less visible since it wouldn't have the accretion disk nor all that other stuff around it.


Regarding Coruscant's position: Let's remember we always see a 2D map, we don't know how far above the Galactic plane it is, so there's a potential for scientific reality there.

 

I know...somewhere...early in EU...Coruscant was located in the Colonies...I just can't find it again, and it's driving me nuts. I remember vividly that Coruscant became the galactic center because it was the main hub between the core worlds and the first "colonies"...it was the hub ever since.

But yes, Coruscant in the center of the galaxy was simplistic to say the least.

 

I don't believe it was ever said in any source that Coruscant was the *literal* center of the galaxy, merely that galactic coordinates were centered on its location.