Commander Cody Addressing Sidious As 'My Lord'

When Sidious started giving the command to execute Order 66, I was surprised to hear Cody and the other Clones refer to him as "my lord."

I would have expected "Yes, Chancellor" or "Who the devil are you and where is Chancellor Palpatine" or some such thing, but not "my lord."

Did the clones already know that Palpatine was also Lord Sidious? Were they told at some point that a commanding officer named Lord Darth Sidious might give them instructions?

Any other thoughts?


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It's all part of the programming. If a certain individual uses the trigger phrase, "Execute Order 66", the reply includes, "my lord".

I wonder what would happen if you asked Cody to play solotaire?

 

Awe, man. I read the thread title wrong. I thought that said "Cody and dressing". I'm outta here!

 

That's why you gotta sloooooooooooow down

 

Yeah, I though the "My Lord" thing was weird too.

 

They know it's the Chancellor, it's his private frequency. It's not like "My Lord" is exclusive to the Sith.

 

I'd have to agree with this line being out of place. I don't think they called him "Lord" before that...they called him the Supreme Chancellor. Also, with his obvious different appearance and a war going on, a war in which Palps had recently been kidnapped, I would think the clone commanders may have some reservations that the "Batphone" got hijacked by someone else other than Palpatine.

Carnage

 

DAR WAC: (in Huttese) "The loyalist committee has arrived, My Lord."
MACE WINDU: "You are under arrest, My Lord."
CLONE COMMANDER CODY: "It will be done, My Lord."

"My Lord" is CLEARLY an acceptable term of address for a Chancellor of the Senate, whether you are a disgruntled Jedi Master, a Rodian aide, or a commander of the Clone Army of the Republic.
I don't see what the fuss is about...

 

Did the clones already know that Palpatine was also Lord Sidious?
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I would imagine the response to the message was an automatic trigger, set in all of them at the time of their genetic alteration. Remember what the Kaminoens said to Obi-wan.

"They are programmed to be totally obeydient, obeying every command without question"

Thats why they suddenly turned. I doubt it would have mattered who gave them the order, but they would have been programmed to know that when they receive it, to respond to Lord Sideous as he is the only one who is aware of order 66, so their response was automatic, pre-programmed.

 

Maybe the special clones, like cody actually knew what was going on the whole time.

 

Darth_Turkey, the notion that Order 66 was a Manchurian Candidate-like trigger has been knocked down by official sources multiple times. Order 66 was a special directive that meant the Jedi had betrayed the Republic and had to be eliminated. "My Lord" is a term used by many characters to address Chancellor Palpatine, so it's clearly an acceptable form of address. Remember, we're operating in a class-conscious society here, where titles like "m'lady" are not uncommon.

 

I don't think the clones knew that Palpatine was also the dark lord of the sith. Maybe commander Cody knew only, but it doesn't seem possible.

 

Darth_Turkey, the notion that Order 66 was a Manchurian Candidate-like trigger has been knocked down by official sources multiple times. Order 66 was a special directive that meant the Jedi had betrayed the Republic and had to be eliminated. "My Lord" is a term used by many characters to address Chancellor Palpatine, so it's clearly an acceptable form of address. Remember, we're operating in a class-conscious society here, where titles like "m'lady" are not uncommon.

Fair enough, but that takes us back to the origonal question. How was he recognised as Palpetine? Not only did he have the hood up over his face (The trade federation failed to recognise Sedious = Palpetine for over 10 years with mearly this disguise) but his face had just been melted. I believe the words spoken activated a trigger which the clones must obey, making the jedi the enemy of the republic, and it was pre-programmed that this order could only come from someone they would know to be Lord Sideous.
As they say themselves "There's been a revolt" . . . there has'nt, but the order 66 phrase makes them think there has been. :0)

 

I've been wondering about this also. I think the clones know it's the chancellor but since Order 66 in in their program, they would have automatic intelligence on who the order came from. The thing is, the cloners never told the Jedi because besides Sidious and maybe Dooku, they are the only ones who knew. But how did the Commanders of the clone army know that Palpatine was a Sith unless that knowledge came with their programming?

It would coincide with Mas Amedda saying, 'My Master' as if he was some weak minded fool.

 

I don't remember him being called lord by anyone in the Republic. He has been called Chancellor, your honor, and in the novel President. But never Lord. He was only called that by Mace after he discovered he was a Sith Lord. Cody either called him Lord because that's how he knows the Chancellor via his training or "My Lord" is the trained response to the order.

Edit: The Vice Chancellor called him master after he was revealed as a Sith. He knew before hand, but probably never spoke it in front of others.

 

I think "My Lord" was a sign of respect or something like that.

Good Stuff

 

Cody knew who it was because the call came from Palps private frequency. I had no issues with him saying "my lord" to Palps.

 

This line stuck out for me in the cinema, it struck me that GL was kinda doing a play-on-words of the Lords Prayer - "THY will be done, my Lord" - just my 2 cents.

 

I would imagine that whatever was programmed into the clones' memory regarding Order 66 that whenever Sidious contacted them he was to be adressed as 'my lord'.

 

Rumsmuggler -

During this point in the war, nothing seems to be safe. Coruscant was attacked and Palpatine was kidnapped. The clones would have to be aware that the Chancellors Transmitting Frequency was hijacked. I would think they would be a little skeptical executing the order from Palpatine's private line from someone who looks NOTHING LIKE PALPATINE. That is my problem with the scenario.

Carnage

 

I'm sure that the clone chain of command knew that Palps was rescued and safe. Palps could have easily changed his private comm signal and let the ones he wanted to know about it to have it.

 

It's actually "...Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven". I don't know how you can compare "It will be done, my lord" to "Thy will be done on earth..."

Back to the topic at hand, as to whether the clones knew that Sidious was Palpatine, I'd have to say probably not. The real question is: if they did know that he was Sidious, would they care? No. They are genetically altered to obey orders without question. Again...WITHOUT QUESTION. Palpatine could have said "Execute order 1138: Commit Suicide" and they would all kill themselves without question or hesitation. As Jango said, "They'll do their job well..." They don't care if the Jedi are traitors or if Palpatine set it all up. They follow orders because that's what they were created to do. "My lord" just means "I, as a clone, am your humble servant and will do whatever you ask". It is in no reference to Dark lord of the Sith.

 

Good responses, folks.

I recall the clones addressing Yoda as "Master Yoda" and Mace Windu as "Sir."

I think Dar Wac did refer to Palpatine as "my lord" so that establishes that the term is an honorific for the Chancellor.

I wonder if the clones got a message ahead of the Order 66 message telling them that Palpatine had been attacked and disfigured. It would explain the clones' lack of surprise at his appearance.

 

Dar Wac?

If that is the name of the Rodian in episode II, he says "you honor."

 

Speaking of Jango's "They'll do their job well," he was looking at Obi-Wan with a bit of a smirk when he said it. Do you think he had Order 66 in mind when he said it? As in "They'll do their job well, and you'll be toast."