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JCC Common film-nerd critiques you find incomprehensible

Discussion in 'Community' started by grd4, May 28, 2024.

  1. grd4

    grd4 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Here's mine: Jack Nicholson wasn't that great as the Joker. He was just playing himself.

    Are you out of your @#$% mind? Every scene with Nicholson is a masterclass in Grand Guignol magnificence. Every. Single. One. The post-op crackup. The murder of Grissom. The Mafioso barbecue. The execution outside the steps. The Smilex commercial. The museum dance. The parade. The cathedral dance.

    He's not campy. He embodies every single quality I want from the Joker: the mirth, the mordant wit, the sadism, the style. This is one of the most perfectly-calibrated villain performances in genre film, and people are complaining?

    And even if there was a scintilla of credence to that claim (there isn't), to quote Bill Hicks: "Four questions: Yeah? And? So? What?" It's Jack Nicholson playing the Joker. Most of us didn't deserve something this sublime.

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  2. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 10

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    Is this just a big defense of the Joker or are there other examples? I ask because I have never actually seen the first Batman film.
     
  3. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Did you make an entire thread to subtweet someone with a hot take about a film from…

    … Jesus Christ 35 years ago?! But I was born that year! [face_beatup]
     
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  4. grd4

    grd4 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    You've never seen Batman '89?
     
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  5. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    Actually, this brings up a film nerd critique I find incomprehensible.

    @Jabba-wocky -- how can you possibly find I, Robot to be the best movie ever made? Have you seen Hancock? Ghost Dad? Leonard, Part 6?
     
  6. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    I'm not sure I would classify "Jack Nicholson is just playing himself" as a "film nerd" critique.

    I have found that as the years wear on, I agree more with film nerds. It's difficult not to when the industry at large seems to be trying ever harder to turn the art form into nothing but slop written by literally brainless algorithms and made to be deleted for tax writeoffs.
     
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  7. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    The type of 'film nerd' I despise is encapsulated right here.

    The correct type of 'film nerd', however, is this.
     
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  8. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 10

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    I dislike film criticism
     
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  9. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Another Batman thread.

    This message board needs an enema!
     
  10. SuperWatto

    SuperWatto Chosen One star 7

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  11. gezvader28

    gezvader28 Two Truths & Lie winner! star 6 VIP - Game Winner

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    the most common criticism I heard was "He's too fat."
     
  12. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    I tried to watch this movie again in the late 90's. I couldn't finish it.
     
  13. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    You couldn’t finish your dinner.
     
  14. bstnsx704

    bstnsx704 Force Ghost star 5

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    1.) Furiosa is set over a long period of time, revels in its own mythological/campfire story structure (and the real world mythologies it is drawing from), is divided into literal chapters, and is about a character seeking revenge set against events playing out on a massive scale around her.

    2.) Alyla Browne and Anya Taylor-Joy's performances really anchor and expand on the emotional core of what Charlize Theron established in the previous film, and carry a foreboding sense of heartbreak, knowing what is to come for the character, for everyone and everything that she is set to lose, and the state of the world that she originates from.

    3.) The film is utterly earnest. It refuses to be snarky or condescending or embarrassed by what it is like so many other blockbusters are. It owns every weird, off-kilter character and story beat and name wholeheartedly without batting an eye, and asks the audience confront what other blockbuster movies would paint as absurdities to be mocked or downplayed on a genuine, emotional level.

    In other words, Furiosa is good.
     
  15. SithLordDarthRichie

    SithLordDarthRichie CR Emeritus: London star 9

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    Jack Nicholson being great as The Joker doesn't means he also isn't just being Jack Nicholson in white make-up.
    The reason he was such a good choice is exactly because that's the type of actor he is, teetering on the fine edge of sanity and psychosis.

    The same argument is used for why RDJ is so good playing Tony Stark, because RDJ is basically just playing himself so it comes naturally.
     
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  16. Lowbacca_1977

    Lowbacca_1977 Chosen One star 7

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    Point of order, the first Batman film didn't have Jack Nicholson as the Joker, it had the late, great Cesar Romero as the Joker.
     
  17. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    I would argue that the original Batman movie with Adam West was a much more savage deconstruction of the comic book superhero genre than Watchmen.

    The scene where he deduces the identity of the four villains using dream-logic showed that only a functionally insane hero could match with the functionally insane villains of the story.
    Not to mention where Batman breaks the fourth wall with "Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb", a meta-commentary long before the days of Deadpool and Howard the Duck.
     
  18. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Dream logic? The shark was pulling his leg, that’s unambiguous. :p
     
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  19. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    You’re thinking of Buttman.
     
  20. DarthTunick

    DarthTunick SFTC VII + Deadpool BOFF star 10 VIP - Game Winner VIP - Game Host

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    I’m thinking of Fartman…





    [​IMG] .
     
  21. Happy Sando

    Happy Sando Jedi Master star 4

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    Recently got more than a little frustrated whilst catching up with the "professional" reviews of GxK: The New Empire, all of which kept bringing up Godzilla Minus One for some bizarre reason. Came across like a bunch of snobs complaining that a children's soft play area didn't have an open bar.
     
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  22. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 10

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    I think there’s a pretty clear reason to compare the two most recent Godzilla films, both released within a year of one another. It’s even more clear which one is terrible by comparison.
     
  23. JoinTheSchwarz

    JoinTheSchwarz Former Head Admin star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    “star wars is good”

    yeah sure. since when?
     
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  24. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I thought A Few Good Men had Jack Nicholson playing himself. Maybe we’re all wrong and it was Terms of Endearment.
     
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  25. tom

    tom Chosen One star 8

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    that's just kind of what acting is, with the exception of a few actors maybe. like you cast paul rudd in your movie because you want paul rudd to be in your movie.
     
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