Could Anakin Solo have defeated Darth Caedus?

I'm curious about that possibility.

I think it might have been a better story had Anakin Solo lived, only to be slain by Darth Caedus.

I think that, despite having more Force potential, Anakin doesn't even remotely approach what Caedus has become.

Nor ever could.

He lacks the raw ambition.

 

Anakin would have whooped Pre-Traitor Jacen Solo.

But after Traitor, after TUF, the five year journey, Dark Nest, and training by Lumiya, Jacen is the second strongest Forcce-User alive in the galaxy. He would have whooped Anakin.

 

But your leaving out the fact that Anakin would have also been training and growing stronger. Since we have no way to know how much stornger or how he would have changed that question can't really be answered.


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out of universe jacen would not have become so powerful had it not been for anakin's demise. However in universe i think that it woud have been some show with Anakin edging it through his natural gift fr understanding the force and how one can interact with it rather than his ability to use a saber. Boy i would love to see this fight, it's what the Eu was set up for and what it had been building for since the jedi academy trilogy.

 

Jacen has studied so many "alternative" force methods, he's certainly had the most diverse training. I don't believe that Anakin would have sought out that kind of training- so I guess what it really would have come down to which training was more successful.

 

If Anakin lived he would have been the Cay Qel-Droma of LOTF. the only difference being Jacen would kill him, shrug it off and go back to being evil.

 

Had Anakin lived he'd likely be a Jedi Master now, and since he devoted himself to the Jedi Way rather than attempting to dabble in other traditions thinking he'd learned all there was to learn from the Jedi Order's method of touching the Force he'd be more than a match for Jacen. Look at Luke,wholly devoted to the Jedi Way and he's pretty much shown that he could take down Caedus with the Force alone if he set his mind to it.

 

Actually, Luke and Jacen fought to a stalemate, which is something only Palpatine has shown the ability to do.

In the end, I just don't think Anakin could ever equal his Uncle or Jacen. He lacked the level of ambition and fanatical devotion to study that characterized both of them. Luke spent 40 years mastering the Force while Jacen spent almost all of his thirty years doing it.

Anakin was sort of just "The Guy" jedi.

 

An interesting set of points. But while Caedus may have the widest set of Force abilities compiled by any Sith, his ambition and willingness to use said abilites are not the same. And a better question is would he be able to survive a duel with Anakin? The Jedi who as a seventeen year old acheived cosmic unity in his dying moments? Even if Caedus were to mortally wound him with some obscure Fallanassi heart-stopping trick, would that really stop him? He'd probably tap into the Unifying force and become even stronger! And since when did Anakin lack ambition? Just because he didn't incessantly argue with his supeiriors about the morality of their actions doesn't mean he didn't aspire to them and their power.

I think that a more likely outcome would be that Caedus and Anakin might both die if they fought. Caedus would stab him or something and then Anakin would go all godlike and kick his sorry butt to the next moon before passing away with a smile and a few wise words.

 

I think that a more likely outcome would be that Caedus and Anakin might both die if they fought. Caedus would stab him or something and then Anakin would go all godlike and kick his sorry butt to the next moon before passing away with a smile and a few wise words.



Except, Jacen ALSO achieved cosmic unity and survived.

 

I disagree. Palpatine fought Yoda to a stalemate and their fight was pretty much an orthodox saber/Force duel. Jacen was getting his rearend solidly handed to him until he whipped out his YV toys. And even then he didn't stand much of a chance until Ben stabbed him in the back.

Anakin Solo was a Force virtuoso. He likely would have done like Luke after his war was over, study study study. Luke was himself a prodigy and it's not like he studied the Jedi arts hardcore during the major battles of the GCW. That didn't happen until he was essentially not needed on the frontlines anymore. Anakin Skywalker was just the same, had he not become unhinged during the Clone Wars he likely would have done just as Luke did and become a Jedi Master to surpass Yoda. Anakin Solo's character was so much like both Luke and his grandfather his path would have been the same.

 

Exactly. It was more important to defend the galaxy from the Vong then to go around studying the force at that time (like Jacen was basically doing).

 

Well the difference there is that Jacen was immersing himself in the force. Anakin was the force.

 

That's because he died.

;-)

 

Funny, I seem to recall it happening before then.

 

I took Anakin's Fool-Ectasy as something that was killing him, to be honest.

 

No, you should reread Anakin's revelation in Conquest. He was much more thoughtful than you're giving him credit for. And also reread the Corellian Trilogy to see why Anakin was special.

He would have crushed Caedus.

 

I saw Corellian Trilogy and I also read Dark Empire.

The fact remains that what Anakin was as a child means nothing to what he becomes as an adult.

Anakin Skywalker was nothing to Obi Wan Kenobi despite his pedigree.

Palpatine was the greatest Sith ever and was just a normal kid.

I don't think destiny means much in Star Wars.

 

I don't think destiny is the point. Anakin was having larger thoughts of the Force before Jacen ever considered that the Force might be a much larger concept that he'd previously thought it to be. Jacen's whole thing before Vergere was that the Force should be respected and not used lightly... a worthy thought. But Anakin is actually the first of the NJO to be depicted as thinking maybe the Force is far more all-encompassing that we thought if these Yuuzhan Vong exist. He was thinking maybe the Jedi just weren't percieving it large enough. That kid would have definitely followed in Luke's shoes had he made it through that war.

I think Anakin Skywalker would have followed the same basic trajectory as Luke did too, had he not gotten bent out of shape during the Clone Wars and gone Sith.

 

Without sounding like some Anakin Solo fanboy which I certainly don't consider myself to be as I was never actually particuarly fond of the kid I'm still half wondering if his ghost will play some role in defeating Caedus. It's the whole "Sword of the Jedi" thing combined with the Revelation preview (the wierd part about the warrior sailor coming back to save everyone). It's got me wondering if Jaina is simply "the sword" and Anakin "the Jedi" in a singular sense and if we'll have a Splinter of the Mind's Eye situation with Anakin joining with Jaina to help overcome their brother together.

 

Darth Caedus is still a very weak force user & a terrible duelist. He's only a threat because noone will act against him & because they weakened every character in the franchise to make Jacen appear strong & it backfired. Anikan Solo would wipe the floor with him.

 

I think that Anakin could have taken Jacen. Didn't Jaina say in Dark Journey that he was on his way to discovering something about the Jedi before he died? And there were the rumours that he was the next Luke Skywalker? I think Anakin would have embraced different teachings. During the Vong war he was learning ways of battling the vong that were not force related because he understood that wasn't the tool for the job. Had he lived I think he would have found a tool to take down Jacen. And I think if he and Luke had taken on Jacen, he wouldn't have had a chance

 

Good question.

I think in terms of force sensitivity it goes something like this

Luke, Anakin & Ben are all on the same level (which is slightly below the level of the chosen one) & Leia, Jaina & Jacen are slightly behind them.

But Anakin would still be found wanting, if Luke with all his experience couldn?t defeat Jacen without been taken to hell & back then Anakin wouldn?t defeat Jacen at all.

 

Not true. In Vector Prime, it was established that Jacen ALWAYS won their lightsaber sparring matches.

It's the first hint of the vicious villain Jacen would become... even when he seemed focused on philosophy and quietism, his running feud with Little Brother was the one thing that revealed his strength of will, his ability to control and destroy: when he wants something, he'll seize it.

Rivalry with Anakin was the aspect of his character in which his transformation into Darth Caedus began.

So, would Anakin have defeated Caedus? Not in a straight fight, I suspect. But then again... we saw what happened with Luke and Vader in Return of the Jedi....

Would Anakin have defeated Caedus without falling to the Dark Side, too? That's another question....

Anakin and Tahiri, or Anakin AND Jaina? That's another matter altogether...

- The Imperial Ewok

 

People sometimes seem to lose sight of the fact that it's not always Force potential or power that wins the fight in Star Wars. So what if Jacen's pure power levels might outstrip Anakin's? There's more to it than that. There's heart, there's courage, there's intelligence, there are intangibles. Luke was not as powerful as Vader on the Death Star, but he bested him. As a matter of mythological and literary convention, the Hero can achieve things beyond his mere capabilities. As Luke said to 15 year old Anakin in DT: Onslaught, "In that moment you blazed so brightly within the Force . . . you were dazzling, and try their best, they could never have struck you down." I truly believe that of Anakin Solo. It's a shame he decided to let himself die in Star By Star.

Precisely

And . . . Yo! Nrg!

I'll sum this whole thing up as a simple parting thought:

There's a lot of difference between Force power and Strength. Jacen has Force power. Anakin, like Luke, had Strength.

KW