Could Qui-Gon have survived?

I know this has probably been discussed before, but do you think that Qui-Gon could've survived if Obi-Wan had chased after Qui-Gon and Maul instead of just standing there? I know he only waited about ten seconds, but that sheild closed right before he got to them. Maul might've beaten them anyway, but both Jedi could've come out alive. What do you think?

 

Seems like he could have lived if there were some medical droids nearby, and had gotten to them immediately. People in our century have survived MUCH worse using only morphine, anti-biotics, penicillin, blood transfusions, and aspirin! It didn't look like he was run through the heart, and he didn't lose any blood. Maybe it was the shock of having a stabilized beam of pure intense energy shoved through his guts, or the lightsaber may have damaged his spine/nervous system. Or maybe it was the will of the Force!

 

If Obi-Wan had been there, Qui-Gon probably would've survived.

 

Qui Gon's death. This was the will of the Force. Qui Gon did not die by mere chance. Darth Maul was destined to win. In this case, it has nothing to do with anyone's skill, experience or anything. The Force was manipulating Maul, Qui Gon and Obi Wan on Theed. Why did Qui Gon die? If he didn't, he would not have been able to show Yoda and Obi Wan the truth of the Force, and would not have shown them the real way of how to achive immortality. One could only achieve it through selflessness, not selfishness. This is why I don't believe Plagueis could control midi-chlorians to preserve life and achieve immortality. Sidious stated that through his will to preserve life and keep those he loved alive, he had learned to manipulate the Force to keep them alive. Qui Gon proved this false, and so that easily crosses out Anakin's birth by the hands of either Plagueis or Sidious. Through selflessness, Qui Gon was able to retain consciousness through the Force. Total, complete, 100% oneness with it, the goal of all Jedi. The very objective Jedi train to complete. So it was through Qui Gon that Yoda and Obi Wan were able to learn from their mistakes and learn the real nature of the Force and what had gone wrong with the Jedi Order. So, the Force had planned for Qui Gon's death from the very beginning, meaning that it is of no use speculating on the subject of Anakin not turning to the Dark if Qui Gon lived. As already said above, Anakin was destined to turn and similarly, Qui Gon was destined to die

 

^^^^ I guess the answer to everything in Star Wars is "It was the will of the Force"

 

Pardon what may be considered a totally closed question.... but has it ever been definitively answered what Qui-Gonn was doing when he knelt and ..well...rested?

Was he simply marshalling his strength? Calmly resting himself (a nice, Jedi-like counterpoint to all of maul's angry pacing)? Or was this related to him preparing himself to survive beyond death if needs be?

Shadow

 

Qui-Gon was simply meditating. It was calming him down for his battle, while keeping him in touch with the force to a higher degree. Kind of a power-up, if you will.

 

Try sticking a lightsabre through your stomache and tell me if you live.

 

Mace Windu survived a similar injury in Shatterpoint and survived it.

 

^ my point exactly. The Force controlled everything that happened in the Theed Power Generator. NOthing could have gone the way the Force wanted it to go if Qui Gon didn't die. The Force wanted him dead for a good reason, a right reason. And if you think about it, Qui Gon never actually died because by being able to retain consciousness and physical form in the Force, he achieved immortality.

 

i agree with you fredan if qui-gon dident die he would have never shown yoda and obi wan how to become imortal and obi wan and yoda wouldent have trained luke to us the force, luke would have not broght his father back to the light, so I guess the foce planed everything.

 

Could Qui-Gon have survived?


yes,if he hadnt ran into maul.

 

You would not die that fast if you had been stabbed through the lower chest. Qui-Gon could have survived easily, but I think that they wanted him to die becuase otherwise Obi-Wan would not have been able to take Anakin as his apprentice. The way the story was going, Qui-Gon would have ended up being Anakin's master instead of Obi-Wan, or Anakin would have had no master, and of course that doesn't work out in the plot.

 

i agree with Freedan, he needed to die to become one with the force to teach it to yoad and obi-wan so they could help luke in the future

edit: i just saw this was already said, im sry, but its still the point

 

How many people could have survived a stab in the gut like that? It wasn't inflicted with some measly sharp object. It was done with a sword. So no, he couldn't have survived. When Obi-Wan got caught at the last door, Qui-Gon's fate was pretty much sealed. Had Obi-Wan managed to get there in time, or had Qui-Gon managed to fend Maul off until ObiWan got there, things might've turned out differently.

 

This isn't exactly on topic, but what I want to say doesn't exactly merit it's own thread. I was watching TPM a few minutes ago and I realized that Qui-Gon decks Darth Maul. It's quick, and I probably should have noticed it earlier, but this is one of the only times we see a Jedi get physical. Just surprised me.

 

Why, then, did Mace Windu survive a blaster shot in the thigh, a huge human bite wound on his shoulder, cracked ribs, head trauma, a lightsaber stab in the gut and a lightsaber slash on the chest? Mace survived that, and I'm sure Qui Gon could have in that instance. Also, in the fourth book of Jedi Apprentice if I remember correctly, Qui Gon suffered worse than a stab to the gut, so could have survived against Maul under normal circumstances. Plus, Maul never hit any of Qui Gon's vitals. Under normal circumstances, Qui Gon would only have been weakened, but by the Will of the Force, Qui Gon died because then he would have the chance to teach Yoda and Obi Wan the truth about the Force.

 

Because the lightsaber blade not only put a hole through Qui-Gon's stomach, but probably paralyzed him too because it went through his back. Let's use common sense here. When such injuries occur, people can get dizzy, become incapable of breathing, etc. That's why.

 

If it went through his spinal chord, he would have fell right down to the ground instead of going down slowly on his knees. Also, his nervous system would have been completely shot. He would have been able to as much as move his arms, but he did move them after being stabbed when he caressed Obi Wan before dying.

 

The only reason Obi-wan defeated maul was because he tapped into the darkside. However, the shields had not been there then the super-duper jedi duo may have had a chance. If they had not died, then Qui-gon would have trained Anakin, and then Anakin would not have turned into the no.1 baddie. But that is off-topic so please forgive me.

 

Wrong. Obi Wan did tap into the Dark Side while he fought aul alone, but he didn't beat him then. Obi Wan defeated Maul when he focused and used the Force to call Qui Gon's blade. He killed Maul in a Jedi way, using the Force as a companion. When Obi Wan used the Dark Side, Maul pushed him down into the molten pit, but with the Force (with), Obi Wan killed Maul in one swift stroke.

Now, you're assuming that if those shileds wouldn't have been there, then the Jedi duo would have stood a better chance. Parhaps, but those shileds were there for a reason. If Qui Gon didn't die, Anakin would still have turned to the Dark Side. Qui Gon wouldn't have stopped Anakin from falling in love with Padmè. Anakin was already in love since he was 9, ever since he first saw her. Qui Gon and Anakin would have been given the mission to protect Padmè and they would have been separated so they could protect Padmè and Qui Gon searched out the assassin, giving them the chance to re-inforce their love. Perhaps Anakin would have learned to control his emotions a bit more with Qui Gon, but he would still have had much fear for Padmè, and that was what eventually led Anakin to the Dark Side. Anakin would have been thrown into the lava, but then, once that had happened, Yoda would have blamed Qui Gon for not having taught Anakin well, and Qui Gon would have been the only one who knew the truth of the Force. The two Jedi would have come to disagreements as to what to do about Luke and Leia and the Sith would have perhaps found them shortly after they had been hidden. Yoda wouldn't have gone into hiding at all, but would have tried to fight the Sith once more and wouldn't have survived another confrontation because he would have been practically alone against both Sidious and Vader. One vs two, and even though the two are individually not as powerful as Yoda, the two of them together would have overwhelmed Yoda. Qui Gon needed to die for the plot to work. The Force needed him to die for everything to work out the way it did.