Could the first Darth Wyyrlok be ... MAS AMEDDA?

After seeing that the presumed daughter of the third Wyyrlok in the preview has a bluish 'normal' chagrian complexion, I'm wondering if the Wyyrlok family may have been started by Senator and Vice Chair of the Senate Mas Amedda. We don't know yet what became of him. Most speculation assumed that Palpatine had him (and Sly Moore) killed off during the early years of the Empire, because he 'knew too much'. But that could have also been said about Sate Pestage, Ars Dangor and other members of Palpatine's inner circle (but certainly not about that Kinman Doriana guy, who definetely had no idea what was going on) who were close to him before/during the Clone Wars. We know from TPM, AOTC and ROTS that he was deeply involved (and aware of) Sidious's machinations. And if I remember correctly, he addressed Palpatine as 'Master' or 'My Lord' during their conversation after the fight against Yoda, rather than the Imperial-Majesty-stuff the clone soldiers used later. Something that could indicate that Mas Amedda was, in fact, force-sensitive and a Sith adept; we already knew from the Evasive Action series that Sly Moore was a Sith adept and trained the furure Imperial Inquisitors, so she certainly was force-sensitive.

With Krayt being A'Sharad Hett, K'Kruhk and T'raa Saa still being alive and around, and R2-D2 still functioning, that would be weird at all.

Any thoughts about that?

 

You are correct! After Vader killed Palpatine etc etc Mas Amedda fled to the Unknown Regions & came back a full fledged Sith Lord & encountered A'Sharad Hett in Korriban soon after he became a Sith acolyte.

And the rest is history.

 

Dass Jenir should kill him before that would hapen.

 

He went on to become the 1st Darth Wyrrlokk. history already happened mate

 

I... think that's horribly unnecessary. That's taking the fact they're both the same species and taking that to mean that they should be the same person. Which isn't true. There are probably billions of Chagrians out there; there's absolutely no reason I can see why these two should be the same person.

Besides, don't you think Palpatine would have known if Mas Amedda was Force Sensitive?

 

put it this way. If Palpatine managed to "hide" his darkside aura from the mighty Jedi including Yoda for so long what makes you think Mas Amedda cant do the same?

Heck he might already be training as a Sith in secret without Palpatine's knowledge. If Sidious was smart then I'd say Darth Wyrrlok 1 is smarter!

 

Could Darth Ruyn be ... ORN FREE TAA?

 

ORN FREE TAA is too fat.

 

OMG Wolf Sazen is an ancestor of Darth Maul

POTENTIALLY RACIST!!!

 

Who's to say that Palpatine didn't know, or didn't personally teach him a trick or two?

 

Chagrians racism? LOL Is that like saying all Quarren are good swimmers?

Considering how powerful Darth Wyyrlok III is, it could logically be accepted that if Mas Amedda was Darth Wyyrlok I, he surely would've had the power to hide in the force. This would also explain why he disappears after RotS......possible to train by means of a Sith Holocron and/or recruit others to a certain cause. Master_Keralys, don't be so quick to rule something out when that "something" is possible.

Plus, Mace Windu thought Mas Amedda was Darth Sidious before Anakin told him about Palpatine.

 

Er, no he didn't.

"Too many. All we know of Sidious is that he's bipedal, of roughly human conformation. Sate Pestage springs to mind. I wouldn't rule out Mas Amedda, either. The Sith Lord might even be hiding among the Red Guards. There's no way to know."

He suspected Amedda might possibly have been Sidious, along with probably hundreds of other people who could possibly have had some sort of influence over the Senate.

Anyway, there's no point discussing a theory that consists of "this isn't impossible, even there's no actual reason whatsover to suspect it's the truth," when there's really nothing else to say.

 

So out of "probably hundreds of other people" he just happens to mention Mas Amedda by name....ok.....obviously he thought pretty hard about him being Sidious then.

Plus, there IS a point to discuss this becuase....*drums roll*.....that's what this thread created by Darth_Calgmothis all about. If you think otherwise, then skip this thread.

 

Seems like that's half the "speculation" threads these days.

 

I never intended for this theory to be perceived as something that makes sense (but it's delightful to see that people truly could imagine that this thing makes sense; it shows that something like that is possible within the SW EU).

On the other hand it is not that much more ridiculous than Vergere being a potential Sith disciple, comparing with Master Dooku for Darth Sidious's attention, realizing that he is madman and averting Sidious's assassins, getting the Jedi Council (who has no clue about her being interested in the Sith or in immediate threat from Sith assassins) to assign her to the Zonama Sekot mission.
Or for K'Kruhk being alive and kicking 160 years after the Clone Wars, but with no sign of activity whatsoever during this 160 years. R2 being fuctioning close to two centuries, or Jacen Solo becoming a Sith wannabee.

But then I think Mas Amedda deserves a biography of his own after ROTS. Just killing him off feels not right. And he only needs to be killed off because LFL did not stop the early EU from establishing Palpatine's anti-alien-policy (or, if you like it that way better: GL did not present Palpatine as humans-only-man during the PT), so that it's now difficult to imagine that he served at the side of Pestage until Endor.

As I said, one can speculate on the basis of ROTS that Amedda was a Sith adept by the way he addresses Palpatine. I never assumed that he could hide his force-sensivity from Palpatine, but one could think that Palpatine had banished him from the Imperial Court (as Amedda was Chair of the Imperial Senate, him being non-human would have looked bad to the rascist faction of Palpatine's followers during the later years of the Empire), which forced to live low in the Outer Rim doing Sith research stuff on his own. Finally he could have met with A'Sharad Hett after/during the Vong invasion on Korriban. Krayt should have had some inside information on the Bane Order to decide to break with its tradition. The XoXaan Holocron should not have influenced the One Sith Order ideology. But Amedda could have some intel on what went wrong within Sidious's Order.

 

Mas Amedda as DW1 makes sense based on his insight into Palpatine's true self and his referring to him as Master. Someone just needs to write the story that explains it well. With the happenings in Legacy now, it would be a great addition and another "circle" would be complete in the SWU.

From serving the first Sith to come out of the closet after almost 1000 years to now serving the new Sith would create a link from old to new ideology.

 

It should be Anakin-Luke-Ben-Kol-Cade minimum. But Darth Wyyrlok I. should have been rather old when he and Krayt teamed up, as it's not likely that the Wyyrloks did much live-or-death-fighting during Krayts boring decades on Korriban. More so, the Darth Wyyrlok title seems to have been an office that went from father to child, thus meaning that the potential Wyyrloks did not have to compete with other Sith for that particular office.
Jag and Fel II. most likely will have to be killed off instead of dying naturally, as at least Fel II. should still be alive during the Legacy era (even Jag could, if would have visited that Rejuvenation Center we know from 'Millenium Falcon').

Does anyone know anything about how old chagrians become?

Oh, and the fact that Darth Wyyrlok III. (the Chief of Staff of Sith Emperor Darth Krayt) was a chagrian male already was a link to the PT. So if Mas Amedda would truly be the founder of that line, it would only be more prominent link.

But I think the Wyyrlok family is going to play a prominent role in the next issues, so we should be patient.

 

Why would Mas Amedda, if he was already a Palpatine trained Sith Apprentis, serve Hett who had less Sith knowledge than himself? What would make Kryat the Master in that relationship. It doesn't make sense. That's like Palpatine becoming Dooku's Sith apprentis.

 

Because he never was a Sith Apprentice. That role was taken by Maul, Tyranus, and Vader. Plus, he may have had some training by Sidious in the darkside like fellow Imperial Interim Ruling Council member, Sly Moore. Or like mentioned above, he could of learned to hide his force presence. If Mas Amedda meet Hett, it would've been after Hett recieved his Sith training of Korriban and therefore, Hett was much much MUCH more powerful than him. Why not serve Hett and learn more Sith ways and pass this knowledge on to his children who wcould eventually use this knowledge to rule....ta-da... Darth Wayyrlok III.

It's a unique possibility to consider. Brings everything together in a way too.

 

I don't buy it. If he had enough Sith and/or Force training that he needed to hide his presence from the Jedi, then he was plenty powerful enough. Especially if he could hide himself from Yoda while standing right next to him. Why does the SW galaxy have to be so small?

 

Hett hears a calling in the force and finds Mas Amedda. MA has been training his son in the ways of the dark side based on what he learned from Palpatine. Just enough to be dangerous. Hett kills MA and his son is taken as Hett's first One Sith member/lacky, or even better is Hett turning MA's son against him. Lots of possibilities. Maybe the death of MA at Hett's hands has been passed down from DW to DW and that is why the latest DW3 has that evil grin when he is frying Krayt. Revenge???

I also agree it could be complete hogwash, but hey, it's Star Wars. People have laser swords and fly in space.

 

Ugh.....Ben Skywalker can hide in the force. Obviously it isn't that hard once somebody shows you how too.