Count Dooku: Great Idea, Poorly Executed

I think Count Dooku is great and was probably better in Geroge's mind. However, in the final movie the character comes off as kind of weakly written. It feels like that they just threw him in for the sake of having a bad guy, the same as some will say about Maul. Dooku NEEDED to be in Episode 1. It would just make the transaction between episode 1 and 2 flow better. It would gel the Character and story together a lot better, at the same time giving us more of an understanding of the character. Maybe Ep.3 will and maybe it wont. He is too good of a character to not expand more.

 

"Dooku NEEDED to be in Episode 1."

How would you have introduced him in Episode 1, keeping him relavent to the storyline?

 

You could have easily added him in during one of the coruscant scenes without disrupting the flow of the story. I think it would have been neat to see Qui Gon go to Dooku for some advice about the Sith, kind of a strange foreshadowing. Qui Gons burning would also be a good scene. When I say NEEDED TO BE IN EP.1 I did not mean as a major character.

 

Count Dooku wasn't invented before Episode II. Don't forget he'll be back for Episode III. Adding Dooku in Episode I might happen if the rumoured Ultimate Edition is made.

 

Wasnt he filmed and added into the funeral scene in ep1? I thought i heard (as in: not just a rumour) about that. Ultimate edition will give us the answer to those questions though...

 

It might have been cool to see Dooku on the Jedi Council in Episode I, and see him quit in protest because the Council refused to intervene more dramatically in the Naboo affairs...or conversely quit because they chose to intervene to the extent they did.

 

probably better in Geroge's mind. However, in the final movie the character comes off as kind of weakly written

George seems to be like a student, who has good ideas, but needs to be told to keep on re-writing his projects to make them better. He only stops at a certain point, and doesn't feel the need to execute it better.

As far as I'm concerned, Ep II is Ep I.

 

Count Dooku was may favorite new character in AOTC. He was a great idea, wonderfully executed.

As far as I am concerned, Episode II is Episode II.

-Otis

 

The solution is simple, Lucas hadn't made up Dooku in EP1.

 

Count Dooku a poorly-written and conceived character? Hardly.

A good many fans pretty much agree upon the fact that Dooku is probably the best developed Star Wars villain since Tarkin, quite genteel in his dealings with the protagonists; and it is his very ambiguity concerning his *true* philosophical and political leanings that were established in the film which makes Dooku an especially fascinating character to study.

I imagine that we'll receive the true story about him in the next film, but I greatly appreciated Lucas and Jonathan Hales instilling such terrific characterization into the film with him, giving fans something to analyze and academically dissect for years to come.

 

I can deal with Dooku not being in ep.I(espeially since he didn't exist at that time), but I believe that he should have been visibly introduced during the beginning of the film. Even though he is mentioned, the average audience doesn't really acknowledge him until his first appearence and thus, knows little about him. As for the more dedicated SW fan, the fact that he is not scene until the climax of the film makes them feel as if his character was rushed, as the author of this thread shows.

I personally had no problems with Dooku, however I was spoiled before the movie and had read up on all of his cut exposition scenes. I think a more intense conversation between Jocast Nu and Obi-wan about Dooku in the library would make the audience feel more familiar with Dooku. In the movie they don't even mention that the bust Obi-wan is looking at is of Dooku! Of course, the best soulution would be to have Dooku give a passionate speech to the masses about the evils of the republic in the beginning of the film.

 

What do you people mean that George hadn't invented Count Dooku when he was writing TPM?
Weren't these stories written 25 years ago?
Please don't tell me George is making all this up as he goes along.

 

No, a new hope was written around 25 years ago, and it was originally called starwars. as far as the NT goes, did you ever see the documentary on TPM. at the end GL sits down and starts writing EP II.
And as for the DOoku character. I found his character to be great, and portrayed by a top-of-the-line actor. If you read about count dooku's past on the starwars.com database he started his wheelin' and dealin' between TPM and AOTC. Remember there was about a ten year gap between those two episodes (movie world years).

 

No, a new hope was written around 25 years ago, and it was originally called starwars. as far as the NT goes, did you ever see the documentary on TPM. at the end GL sits down and starts writing EP II. According to news on EP III, GL hasn't even written the script yet, or completed it.
And as for the DOoku character. I found his character to be great, and portrayed by a top-of-the-line actor. If you read about count dooku's past on the starwars.com database he started his wheelin' and dealin' between TPM and AOTC. Remember there was about a ten year gap between those two episodes (movie world years). Have a little faith in GL. Don't worry folks, GL knows what he is doing! He is the creator of Star Wars afterall. I think he knows how things should go!

 

Lucas had a simple outline written 25 years ago which told the very basic story of ep1-ep6. He is simply expanding the stories now that they need to be told in detail. The character of Dooku could have been played by anyone really, and it was only after Episode 1 that George invented the disillutioned Jedi, Count Dooku. Early concepts for the Ep 2 villian included a Sith witch, but I'm glad Dooku was the end result! Count Dooku is almost as cool a villian as Vader!

 

Personally I think Count Dooku was originally not meant to be a Sith, but just a politician who ran the Seperatists. Sort of like Tarkin in ANH, and the new Sith apprentice would have been his right hand man, like Vader is to Tarkin in ANH.