Count Dooku's Force Lightning

I think the most surprising part, and one of my favorite parts in this movie, was when Dooku used the force lightning. My eyes lit up, and my face just dropped. I instantly realized, just how powerful he really was.

Being the true starwars fan I am, I immediately had flash backs of the Emperor, doing that in Return of the Jedi. But I was suprised, that somebody other than the Emperor was now doing this, on the big screen.

Also my respect for Yoda went up about five thousand notches as well, after seeing him in combat. Who would've thought something so small, could fight hand to hand so well.

Judge me by my size do you? : Yoda
Not anymore I don't :Grand Warlord Mc.

 

I feel the exact same way

 

My problem with Dooku's electric personality in AOTC is that it makes the Emperor's force lightning in ROTJ seem weaker.

We now know that it can be blocked by lightsabers and small, green Jedi masters. Luke could have avoided a shock if he'd kept hold of his lightsaber.

The Emperor's scary party trick is not, therefore, as dangerous as it seemed. It's something that needs rectifying in Ep3, IMO. If lightning is all that Sidious has got up those sleeves, then why is he the Master? If Dooku can do it too, it implies that they're on the same level. With Dooku's ego being comparable to Sid's, why does he suffer the indignity of being an apprentice if Sid's ability can be countered?

We need something in ep3 that shows us why Sidious is the Sith Master, and Dooku isn't.

 

"My problem with Dooku's electric personality in AOTC is that it makes the Emperor's force lightning in ROTJ seem weaker.

We now know that it can be blocked by lightsabers and small, green Jedi masters. Luke could have avoided a shock if he'd kept hold of his lightsaber.

The Emperor's scary party trick is not, therefore, as dangerous as it seemed. It's something that needs rectifying in Ep3, IMO."

Agreed, Dooku's lightning opened a whole can of worms.

We have to see Palpatine fight with a saber in ep3 now (as much as it seems a terrible idea) because Dooku is now more powerful theyn his master.

If they fought, Palpatine would shoot lightnign at Dooku, and then Dooku would jsut block it with his saber.

He would then shoot lightning back at Palpatine who would either die, or deflect it like Yoda did.

If he deflected it, Dooku would draw his saber and attack, and Palpatine would be cooked.

The lightning should of just been Palpatine's game.

 

I don't think Count Dooku using force lightning makes Palpatine weaker. In Return of the Jedi Palpatine is clearly trying to make Luke suffer, so chances are he did not unleash his full fury. With Dooku it's different. He used his full power to dispose of enemies quickly so he could get out of there. Palpatine was not in a rush. Count Dooku was.

 

I do see the point, that it affects the lightning from the Emperor. It just makes me wonder even more what happens with Dooku in the third movie. I mean if he is powerful enough to fight so well with the saber, and use force lightning as well. Another thing I wonder about is the "force grasp", we see Darth Vader do it in the other movies. Vader didn't use lighting, he would just use his jedi powers to choke the life out of people. So I guess Dooku couldn't just do this, but used lighting instead? Same way with Emperor Palaptine. Instead of lightning, couldn't he have just choked Luke Skywalker to death? Are these dark jedi able to do both, lighting and choking, but it's just up to them which one they want to chose?

One really big serious question I have with this whole entire saga, is this. And it may have allready been discussed, I apologize if it has. But I would like to know, are Darth Sidious, and Palaptine the same guy? For if not, I think there would be some kind of battle between Sidious and Palaptine in the next movie. I mean I just couldn't see palaptine taking orders from a sith lord. But if they are the same person, Palaptine really is the "fooler of everybody" isn't he? One thing that makes me think he is the same person, is that in The Phantom Menace I believe, Darth Sidious says something about keeping the Senate bogged down.

 

Dooku is just too cool. I didnt expect him to use the force lightning at all. It had not even crossed my mind he had such power.

 

I agree about Count Dooku being cool. He is my favorite charactor out of all of the Star Wars movies. The way he handles the lightsaber, the power to use force lightning, his antique solar sailor, and his ability to cause chaos with the Republic.

 

Even though I'm not tooo fond of EU material, I knew Obi-Wan could block the Sith Lighting with his Sabre. Luke did it in Dark Force Rising.

 

"We now know that it can be blocked by lightsabers and small, green Jedi masters. Luke could have avoided a shock if he'd kept hold of his lightsaber. "

Well that just shows Luke is not as experienced/knowledgeable as Obi and not as powerful as Yoda.

Who know if he could have blocked it with just his hand like Yoda? It took a lot of strength for Yoda to do that as he didn't just block it he absorbed it kinda and redirected it.

And it's not like Luke would have thought " There's lightning coming at me. I should try to fire it back at him."

 

Luke throwing away his light sabre was a crucial part of what happens. in the novel it states that Vader saw how Luke chose not to fight any more by throwing his sabre away and that in part turned him back to Anakin Skywalker. Plus Luke may not have known that the Emperor had lightning as he had never seen it before.

 

Count Dooku should NOT be able to use force lightning. it totally takes away from the surpise and power the emperor shows in Ep6. Force lightning always seemed like the ultimate masterry of the force. actually makeing the force a visable thing that can really hurt must take so much power. and it would have been cool if it was left for the final battle of the saga. when Someone is actually able to fight the Emporer. now it just seems like Palps beat Luke using lame 30 year old tricks.
i dunno.. it just wrecks the amazingness of the final battle for me... oh well..

 

My problem with Dooku's electric personality in AOTC is that it makes the Emperor's force lightning in ROTJ seem weaker.

How so? Luke yelled in pain and you could tell it. Anakin made somewhat of a yell of pain and hit the wall and we see him srunching up his face while smoke rises. Luke was twitching and you could see it getting his teeth even.

 

yeah but ut makes it seem less impressive when Dooku can do the same thing.. it makes the Emporer less "Holy Snizzle! this guy is super powerful!!!" now its. "oh. the old lightning from the fingertips trick"

 

>>>We have to see Palpatine fight with a saber in ep3 now (as much as it seems a terrible idea) because Dooku is now more powerful theyn his master.

If they fought, Palpatine would shoot lightnign at Dooku, and then Dooku would jsut block it with his saber.

He would then shoot lightning back at Palpatine who would either die, or deflect it like Yoda did.

If he deflected it, Dooku would draw his saber and attack, and Palpatine would be cooked.

The lightning should of just been Palpatine's game.

Oh god... I pray that Palpatine won't have a lightsaber...

My prediction is that we'll see Palaptine shoot lightning at Yoda which is too powerful for him to block; thus simply demonstrating Palpatine's superior power.

 

I don't see how Dooku's lightning takes away the power of the Emperor. I've always known that the Emperor wasn't using his full power on Luke, he was just torturing him.

Seeing it come from Dooku just suggests that it's a dark side power that Sith can learn to master, so I'm cool with that.

But as powerful as Dooku is, I can't help but see him as just a pawn being played by Sidious.. but that's another topic.

 

the simple fact that Palpie is Dookus Master(not the other way around or "equal") proves to me Dooku simply isn't on his level

it would be cool to see Sidious "harm" someone in Episode 3 but for me it isn't necessary

he is the Phantom Menace of Star Wars after all

 

"Oh god... I pray that Palpatine won't have a lightsaber..."

Given that Yoda fighting with a saber was basically the main reason a lot people ended up going to see AOTC after the terrible word of mouth, I think its quite likely we'll see Palpatine with a saber. Its no less ridiculous or out of character then Yoda fighting with a saber. And someone had to train darth Maul.

"My prediction is that we'll see Palaptine shoot lightning at Yoda which is too powerful for him to block; thus simply demonstrating Palpatine's superior power."

Thats the infamous "Super lightning" I'm always talking about.

Palpatine: "prepare to feel the wrath of my better sith lightning!"

"I agree about Count Dooku being cool. He is my favorite charactor out of all of the Star Wars movies. The way he handles the lightsaber, the power to use force lightning, his antique solar sailor, and his ability to cause chaos with the Republic."

But thats all pretty superficial stuff. What do we really know about his character?

 

This is just my view, but I never thought Dooku's Force Lighting was very impressive. I still feel that the Emperor's lighting is more powerful.

I don't know why. That's just how I feel. Maybe the music helps highten the mood with the Emperor, I don't know.

 

I guess I would agree. Dooku does use his to throw Anakin into the wall but Palps's seems more powerful.

 

Anakin only got a quick dose. Its hard to judged if it was as strong as what Luke got. Good point.

 

I am 99.999% sure Palpatine will NOT have a lightsaber...ever. Unless of course George Lucas for some reason decides to hehe.

But Palpatine holds a VERY high destain for lightsabers thinking them as Jedi weapons. Also he doesn't look like one of those people that would fight as such. As for Palpatine's powers...Force Lightning is the only power we actually see him use, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have others. Also it is my belief that Palpatine's lightning is probably far superior to Dooku's. Now in EU Palpatine is capable of using some kind of advanced form of Battle Meditation and can use it on a grand scale across the Empire, which would explain why the Empire started losing so badly after he was killed.

 

"But Palpatine holds a VERY high destain for lightsabers thinking them as Jedi weapons."

However, all three of his apprentices use sabers, so he can't think to low of them.

And someone had to train Maul.

Palpatine aside, it just as much a sith weapon as a jedi weapon.

"Also he doesn't look like one of those people that would fight as such."

But niether does Yoda. It was terrible to have him fight with a saber. Yet that was what got the biggest reaction out of people from AOTC.

Bare in mind, I think the idea of Palpatine fighting with a saber is really silly, its just that I think its nessesary/not unlikely at this point.

 

Sure the lightsaber is just as much Sith as it is a Jedi's weapon, but it is Jedi in origin and Palpatine personally doesn't like them.

As for the lightsaber training...Palpatine could have taught him that and maybe Palpatine was even trained in lightsaber techniques from his master, but he obviously dislikes them and you will probably not see him use one.

 

All I'm saying is that if Yoda can have a saber fight, then anybody can.