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  1. Kenobi_Kid

    Kenobi_Kid Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Even though she was a Sith for only a short time, Bastila Shan still replaced Darth Bandon as Darth Malak's apprentice. And I wonder. Since Malak and Revan only added the word Darth to thier names in order to create Sith titles, was Bastila's Sith name Darth Bastila?

    And was Darth Bandon's real name Bandon? Did he alone of the Jedi Civil War Sith choose to use his fall to the Dark Side as an opportunity to ditch an otherwise unimpressive name?

    And if Bastila had a Sith name, what would have been apropriate?
     
  2. _Erasmus_

    _Erasmus_ Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Darth Flip-Flop.

    She could also wear incredibly intimidating footgear to match her name.
     
  3. The Loyal Imperial

    The Loyal Imperial Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Spoilers for the KOTOR comics:

    Malak and Revan did not add "Darth" to their names. They had different names before their fall.
     
  4. Kenobi_Kid

    Kenobi_Kid Jedi Padawan star 4

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    That has yet to be proven.
     
  5. The Loyal Imperial

    The Loyal Imperial Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    More spoilers:

    Nope, it was proven in the Essential Guide to the Force.
     
  6. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Very true.

    The Essential Guide to the Force has since proven this to have been an incorrect assumption on our part. When the Council spoke of Revan and Malak as Jedi, they were doing it in the same way Obi-Wan spoke of Vader as a Jedi.

    Revan almost certainly took/was given the "Revan" monkier prior to his becoming a Sith Lord, however. Unless they want to throw out Mandalorian Wars continuity.

    I'd like for Alek to somehow become "Malak" before he becomes a Sith too. Maybe he becomes so well known as Revan's messenger that he gets dubbed "The Malak"... and, uh, then it just becomes Malak.


    I don't think she would have been given a Sith name straight off the bat. I like to think during the JCW era that the "Darth" title was given only upon the trainee having reached a certain level of "Sithdom".

    However, in one of my never-finished fanfics, I went with "Darth Bastila", since that appeared to be the trend. I'd seen people go for "Darth Shan" too though.

    No info either way. Personally, since Darth Bandon is a pretty cool Sith name (IMO) I like to think he chose/was given it.

    Well, though I'd previously have said "Darth Bastila", now that it could have been ANYTHING... let me think. ;)
     
  7. KnightDawg

    KnightDawg Jedi Padawan star 4

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    She turned to the darkside after Darth Malak's torture, but she still wasn't a Sith Lord yet (or is the correct name Lady of the Sith for females?). She still had to prove herself and that's why he sent her to kill Revan. I think if she would have killed off Revan, Darth Malak would have then given her a Darth title.

     
  8. Kenobi_Kid

    Kenobi_Kid Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The NEG has made some inaccurate statements in the past. This may be one of them. Can you show me the actual text where it states that?
     
  9. Rouge77

    Rouge77 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Not anymore.

    Bandon is claimed by LFL to come from Abandon, so if Bastila would have been a Sith longer, she would have gotten a Sith name. She wouldn't have been Darth Bastila.

    I think that there is a good chance that she was still atmost a Sith Acolyte during her short time as Malak's apprentice and not a Sith Lord - that Palpatine and Malak were different in this and that Malak didn't make her a Sith Lord immediately after she gave up to the torture and fell to the Dark Side.
     
  10. Kenobi_Kid

    Kenobi_Kid Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I think that only some female Sith prefer the term Lady, but I guess that Bastila would have been among them.

    Also, does anyone think that Alek from the KOTOR comics might not actually be Malak, but Darth Bandon instead?
     
  11. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    the new Dark Lords of the Sith - Darth Revan and Darth Malak.
    Because they were known heroes of the Mandalorian Wars, many Jedi Knights regarded "the revanchist" and his former apprentice Alek as champions, and eagerly joined their cause.


    Page 23.
     
  12. Kenobi_Kid

    Kenobi_Kid Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Thanks Ulicus. And I agree to a certain point with that. As much as I'm certain that the Revanchist is Revan, I'm still not convinced that Alek will become everyone's favorite jawless dark-sider. Until he paints big blue tatoos on his forehead, Alek is only a maybe.

    [image=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Young_Malak.JPG]
     
  13. KnightDawg

    KnightDawg Jedi Padawan star 4

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    :eek: Well if you want to know the truth, go here:
    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Malak I had no idea when this became official and my jaw dropped when I read this....even though it was basically already known.
     
  14. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Alek is definitely Malak. I don't see why the guide would lie.

    However, if they want to keep things consistant he *needs* to get taller. I don't care what the databank says, Malak was like seven foot tall. But, either way, insofar as his height in relation to the Revanchist is concerned... yeah, he needs to be taller.


    The next thing they'll be telling me is that HK-47 was stormtrooper height.

    Oh, wait, they are trying to tell me that. I guess everyone on the Ebon Hawk was a MIDGET.

    "Scout Height" is the average male height in KotOR (and the height of Revan's cutscene model). The average male height in Star Wars is 1.8 metres. It therefore stands to reason that Scout Height represents 1.8 metres.

    As for the original question:

    "Henceforth, Bastila shall be known as Darth Auxilia" Or, maybe "Darth Auxil", hmmm.

    From "Auxilium" (aid, help, assistance, support)
     
  15. Quiet_Mandalorian

    Quiet_Mandalorian Jedi Master star 5

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    Well, that's... rather disappointing, if it's confirmed. [face_thinking]
     
  16. KnightDawg

    KnightDawg Jedi Padawan star 4

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    100% confirmed in "Jedi vs. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force"...released on November 27th.
     
  17. ARC-77

    ARC-77 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    If you're thinking of that blog about Darth names (think it was Leland's), I was fairly certain that was OOU.
     
  18. Rouge77

    Rouge77 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Yes, and of course it was out-of-universe and doesn't prove anything.
     
  19. KnightDawg

    KnightDawg Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Uhhh....since its now listed on http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Malak and in "Jedi vs. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force" , I'm going to have to say, "YES", it is now confirmed. And furthermore, since 99% of SW fans already knew the identity of Darth Malek and Darth Revan already, I don't even understand why one would even dispute this. Especially now.

    Unless, Rouge77, your reply was about OOU, then...nevermind :p
     
  20. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It's listed on the Wook because of the Essential Guide.

    The Wook isn't official source, though it is often awesome.

    (And Rouge is talking about Bandon's name, I'm pretty sure)
     
  21. Rouge77

    Rouge77 Jedi Knight star 5

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    It was about Leland Chee's blog entry with the Darth names.:)

    Correct.:)
     
  22. KnightDawg

    KnightDawg Jedi Padawan star 4

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    True, but now that it is in there....those that still want to disagree about Alek being Darth Malak should just accept it, cause its pretty much a done deal.
     
  23. ARC-77

    ARC-77 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Ah. I thought you were saying that because the name had some other meaning it was his Sith name, not his actual one.

    And I was really disappointed that that blog didn't mention 'Malik' means king in Arabic. It's much better than the Malak-malice thing.
     
  24. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I think it would make more sense to point out that "Malak" means "Angel" in arabic. Though the king thing works too, for sure.

    Interestingly, though, going from "Malik" on the Wiki:

    Military
    Like many princely titles, Malik has also been used as a military rank, notably in certain decimally organized Muslim armies in India, a high rank commanding 10,000 horseman (each 1000 commanded by an Amir), ten Maliks serving under a Khan

    Could "Malak" be some military rank that Alek earns and adopts as his "name/title"? [face_thinking] That would be one way to get him using it prior to becoming a Sith Lord.

     
  25. ARC-77

    ARC-77 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Oh, really? I just figured if it was meant to be "Malik" it was an intentional misspelling. Either way, both are better than malice.
     
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