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Darth Krayt's armor

Discussion in 'Literature' started by DarthPaxious, Oct 5, 2008.

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  1. DarthPaxious

    DarthPaxious Jedi Master

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    I keep reading that his armor is used to give him immortality. Where was this stated and how does it do it? Does it just hold back the Vong implants? Or does it slow his aging?
     
  2. blaXXer

    blaXXer Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Erm, neither. His armor is vong. it does not give him immortality, it in fact does cause his problems. Krayt is not immortal. only through prolonged stasis perioids and jedi/sith healing techniques he has lived for so long.

    that said, his armor is not the solution but the cause of his problems.
     
  3. DarthPaxious

    DarthPaxious Jedi Master

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    Then someone at Wookiepedia screwed up http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Vonduun_Skerr_Kyrric
     
  4. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, some anonymous user added the immortality part back in January.

    Just because it's on the Wook doesn't mean it's true. In general, Wookieepedia is pretty trustworthy, but when in doubt, check the edit history. When something like that is added by a user identified only by an IP address, it's best to be skeptical unless there's appropriate sourcing.

    EDIT: There, it's removed. And I've added a [source?] tag, since I don't recall Krayt's armor ever being explicitly called Vonduun crab armor. It's Vongish, but it doesn't look like the standard crab armor (as Jan draws it.) Anyone know if it was ever called Vonduun armor?
     
  5. DarthPaxious

    DarthPaxious Jedi Master

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    Thanks for the tips
     
  6. Vrook_Lamar

    Vrook_Lamar Jedi Padawan star 4

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    http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=starwars/article/LOTFpreview5

    I know game stats aren't canon but it's still official and trying to emulate canon.

    Those stats don't quite work since Krayt clearly doesn't have a Vong Creature eye anymore. I have no idea if he replaced his vongformed arm with a mechanical prosthetic though. His arm looks organic, but so does Luke's hand. The arm the Yuuzan Vong gave him clearly has a grey skin tone (like Yuuzan Vong do) in the flashback in Claws of Dragon so his current arm (which has the same skin tone as his original arm) may be a prosthetic.
     
  7. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    Krayt was infected with coral seeds and his armor will eventually take him over(unless he finds a way to heal himself), so his armor is more of a curse than a blessing.
     
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  8. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Legacy #0, I believe.
    The Vong growths on the arm would suggest that it's not a mechanical prosthetic. He had mechanical prosthetics before being captured by the Vong, though.
     
  9. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Aha. Thanks. :)
     
  10. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    What's more, I believe it is the coral seeds in his body, not the armor he wears, that's destroying him.
     
  11. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I think there's definitely a relation, though- recall the "nightmare" "werewolf" version of him had the armor itself overgrown radically.
     
  12. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Agreed. I think the coral seeds are the reason the armor tolerates him rather than kill him, as occurs with other non-Vong. Perhaps, as the nature of coral seeds is to adapt and to take over other life-forms, perhaps it will co-opt Krayt's living armor along with his body.
     
  13. Trip

    Trip Force Ghost star 4

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    It's definitely not vonduun crab armor. Not the standard variety, at least; I suppose it's possible that he had a mini-crab bred for himself or something.
     
  14. Graestan

    Graestan Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I got the impression whilst reading NJO that the shapers can pretty much make anything they want that's close to the original form.
     
  15. LordOblivion

    LordOblivion Jedi Master star 1

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    Why can't it still be the Vong arm anyway? His skin tone in general by the time of Legacy is pretty damn grey so it more closely matches. But thanks for bringing up the eye, Vrook. At Wookieepedia we had it saying the blue one was the Vong biot, but you prompted me to check in my copy of the TPB and notice that that particular eye is yellow with a slit pupil.
     
  16. LordHibbidyhai

    LordHibbidyhai Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I thought the Vong removed them and replaced them with bio-mechanical ones. I they did replace them with organic arms, he may have removed them, but I doubt it. I think that when they add stuff it integrates with the rest of the body, making removing them difficult (like the Warmaster guy?).
     
  17. BobaMatt

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    I'm confused. I said the Vong growths suggests that the arms he has now are not mechanical, but rather, organic. Since he had mechanical arms before meeting the Vong, as I mentioned, that would suggest that the Vong regrew them, clearly using the coral seeds that afflict him, as part of their whole body-rebuild project.
     
  18. Jan_Duursema

    Jan_Duursema Comic Artist: -AOTC -Legacy -Republic star 4 VIP

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    Just to clear all this up--Hett had one mechanical arm to replace the arm he lost fighting Obi-Wan Kenobi. The Vong replaced that mechanical arm with a Vong engineered arm, so that arm is now biological, not mechanical. The arm they used was an experimental form, engineered for a human, so it looks human. The Vong also implanted A'Sharad with coral seeds as an experiment. It is these coral seeds which plague Krayt much as a parasite would--they don't kill him, but feed off of him and keep growing. The seeds also warped and stretched his bone structure giving him the added height he now has. Hett's left eye was replaced with a Vong engineered eye, but was later replaced with a cybernetic eye--either by Darth Maladi or by another Sith alchemist.

    Hope that helps. :cool:

    Hmm...I'd probably go dark side too...[face_worried]
     
  19. Vrook_Lamar

    Vrook_Lamar Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Thanks for clearing everything up.

    You've temporally ruined my fun in theorising but been very helpful in the long run.

    To be honest, I'm not sure that that wasn't an illusion. Adendu said "let the pretender's fear consume him" (or something) so maybe Krayt was just seeing a vision of his fear.

    It could be the Vong arm (and is according to the artist), I was just suggesting things that could be used as evidence that it isn't.

    Krayt's blue eye clearly has the Imperial Symbol on it and is a metalic colour. I don't think the Vong make their implants in Imperial fashions.

    Ah yes, the good old Dark Lord height extension.

    Maybe Anakin and Hett really fell to the dark side because of their Napoleon complexes.
     
  20. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    The Vong eye, btw, was a green cat-eye.
     
  21. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    Carnage04 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Out of curiosity, is there any reason why he left the Vong Arm but had the Vong Eye replaced? Are Vong eye prostethics shoddily shaped or was is the creepiness factor?
     
  23. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Well the Vong arm looks just like his arm. The Vong eye was weird.
     
  24. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    It's possible that Krayt would rather have an eye that's just an eye instead of it being a vong creature.
     
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  25. Vrook_Lamar

    Vrook_Lamar Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Maybe the Vong creature eye had completely inhuman vision and it was creaping him out too much.
     
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