Darth Sidious, a coward?

Do you all agree with this sentiment? I honestly think he is a coward. ROTS just reveals many of his cowardly acts:

- He killed his master in his sleep

- His attempt to escape when Yoda pushed him.

- He twitched when Anakin pulled out his lightsaber.

Those are just a few examples. Discuss.

 

wouldn't you "twitch" if the chosen one activated his lightsabre on you?

 

GFETT EDIT: Watch the Caps, please.

 

greed and cowardess go hand in hand. If he wasn't a coward he wouldn't have tried to hide his identity for so long.

 

No, he?s wise. Don?t fight unless you have to.

If he wasn't a coward he wouldn't have tried to hide his identity for so long.

Let me rewrite it for you: If he wasn't so smart he wouldn't have tried to hide his identity for so long.

 

obviously so...he's a wuss...he's not as powerful as most ppl give him credit for...anakin, yoda, n mace could've beaten him -- fair and ellipse.

 

I would much rather be like mace and take this all powerful sith head on than be sids and hide behind anakin.

 

Do you all agree with this sentiment?

Not at all.

- He killed his master in his sleep

That is just smart, not cowardly. If you are going to go against the most powerful Sith lord ever, then that is the only choice.


- His attempt to escape when Yoda pushed him.


Well, in the end it was Yoda who was hiding in the ventilation shaft and whispering to Bail Organa to come save him.


- He twitched when Anakin pulled out his lightsaber.


Of course, Darth Sidious embraces his fear. He does not deny it, and that makes him stronger. A coward is not someone who is afraid, but someone who is afraid and doesn't do what needs to be done. Darth Sidious always did what needed to be done.

 

Not "coward", but GENIUS!

Good Stuff

 

Well, in the end it was Yoda who was hiding in the ventilation shaft and whispering to Bail Organa to come save him

You're not addressing the issue. Are you saying that Yoda is the coward and Sidious isn't? Yoda left because he was beaten. He's not gonna go into a suicide mission to defeat Sid when he knows that 50 clone troopers will come over.

Killing someone in his sleep is cowardly. It's clever yes since Sidious knows he does not stand much of a chance against his master.

 

Palpatine's use of apprentices, henchmen, the political system, pawns, killing someone in their sleep, etc., shows that he knows something that the Jedi are only beginning to learn:

There are alternatives to fighting.

 

There are alternatives to fighting.

Like being a coward for instance.

 

Yes. Palpatine is as big of a coward as Luke.

 

Well, nearly all great villains have a cowardly side. The thing that was unique about Darth Vader, actually, is that despite being as evil as evil can be, he was always a fierce warrior, too. I guess thats one of the things that made him so cool. He was a differant kind of villain....

 

He's not named "Sidious" for nothing. He will never come outright and do his dirty work. Killing his master IN HIS SLEEP is a perfect example of his nature. I don't neccesarily think this is the act of a coward but feel that he did it this way for the sheer pleasure of knowing that Plageuis never saw it coming. Notice how he grins when he tells this part to Anakin. He wanted to do it this way.
I don't think Sidious is an "in your face" fighter but more of a manipulator. He fought the Jedi possee because he had no choice. Fight or be arrested. We see he is a very capable and skilled fighter but he can be beaten. I think he would have preferred someone else fight the jedi for him.
I also got the impression that he didn't want to fight Yoda. He ran for the door but Yoda blocked him. I feel he was hoping the troopers would come and take Yoda out.

 

Explain how Luke is a coward? Hint: He's not.

 

Luke, too followed the idea that there are alternatives to fighting. He refused to fight.

Hint: It's inarguable.

 

Explain how Luke is a coward? Hint: He's not.

"I will not fight you father." -Luke, Episode VI

 

So if you find those so called "alternatives to fighting" you're not a coward?

Grievous, also found an alternative to fighting, no? Was he not a coward?

"I will not fight you father." -Luke, Episode VI


He's a coward because he refused to fight his father?

 

battle droids and stormtroopers found no alternatives to fighting. Look what happened to them.

the rebels fled Hoth to fight another day. The Jedi hid and were able to train a new hope. Look what happened to them.

 

I think the way his character was presented was definitely cowardly in a sense, maybe sneaky is a better word (although it's never clear exactly what he is thinking). I expected a more firm and commanding presence, but also found his over the top emoting, weird cackling, and other behavior to be quite unsettling. Even the strange faces he made during fighting were... well, strange, but effective. If I had just heard about it I would have laughed and thought it sounded like a silly character, but I found it quite menacing.

 

"I will not fight you father." -Luke, Episode VI


He's a coward because he refused to fight his father?

by your definition. we're just pointing out a fault in your point of view. He's not a coward, but your definition says that if he does not fight, then he is. It took a lot of courage for Luke to stand up to Vader and Sids, but he chose not to fight, but to defend himself when he needed to. Except for when he let his rage rush out of him, but that's a different story.

 

You're not addressing the issue. Are you saying that Yoda is the coward and Sidious isn't? Yoda left because he was beaten. He's not gonna go into a suicide mission to defeat Sid when he knows that 50 clone troopers will come over.

I differ, it is you who aren't addressing the issue.

Yoda choose that battle ground for a fight. Why?

because in a small contained room "sonic the hedge-yoda" has the advantage.

Trying to get out of a battle field that is to your enemies advantage is not cowardice, ask Rommel.

Yoda was beaten alright, in an arena that favored sidious, frankly any force user alive would have lost under those conditions.

Sidious is a master manipulator, a liar, a con-artist, the listing of the many facets of his black heart could go on forever, but cowardice is not one of his flaws.

Yoda didn't run from the clones, he ran from sidious, I have every confidence Yoda could handle the clones be it through force or guile.

 

Sidious is a coward. He is also brilliant.

Did he kill Darth Plagueis in his sleep?
It is implied that he did.

Did he attempt to run from Yoda.
Most certainly.

Sidious, being a master of the dark side, used the quickest and easiest means to attain his goals. If that meant training somebody to do his dirtywork so be it. If that meant attacking an adversary when they are weakest so be it. His actions are consistent.

He fought when presented with no other acceptable choice.

I suppose true power is having everyone do your bidding, whether they realize they are doing your bidding or not.

I applaud the character.

 

YES Sidious is a coward. He manipulates instead of fighting unless he has to. Luke is not a coward. He refused to fight, but did not run. He knew full well that he was in danger, but he thought that being killed was better than becoming evil by using his rage against the Emperor.