Darth Vader Producing Offspring After Mustafar

It has been made apparent that Anakin's potential in the Force was a trait that was somehow transmitted to his progeny. This was known to Darth Sidious, as indicated by his aspirations for subverting Luke to the Dark Side. Thus, I surmised that, since any further children he produced would have the same proclivity to power of the Force that he had, there must have been a reason that Sidious did not influence Vader to produce any more offspring to become Sith to compensate for the significant loss of power in his apprentice due to the injuries he was afflicted by on Mustafar. Surely, he could manipulate him to mate for at least a time sufficient for intercourse, despite any sentiments Vader may have retained for Padme. Therefore, it may have been a complication pertaining to his bodily wounds. Perhaps his sexual organs were damaged by the burns he sustained to the extent where they could no longer function...

...or, perhaps Anakin's limbs were not the only appendeges hewn off by Obi-Wan.

 

i honestly dont think luke inherited all of anakins potential it is half and half...adme had no force potential...Anakins force potential was given 2 him by the force 2 aid him in his destiny to get rid of the sith...when he went against his destiny the forc e striped him of most of his power...i dont think any normal conception would be able to have that much midichlorian in a child...anakin was 1 off....Luke is powerful no doubt...his potential as well as leia's is high..higher than any jedi and sith b4 them...but i dont think their potential equals anakins...

 

Yes, I don't know why Sidious didn't try to get Vader to reproduce. As far as I could tell, his pants on the front side were still intact in the medical bay scene so his reproductive organs should have been functional. Perhaps, after Padme died, he couldn't ever think about another woman?

It would make a great fanfic story, though.

 

Both Luke and Leia receieved 50% of Anakin's Force potential, having one parent Jedi and one not.

As for Vader being able to father a child after Mustafar, I would think that's physically impossible. His body was brutally mutilated and he can't live with out the suit, it breathes for him, sees for him, hears for him... I can't believe he'd still be physically able to have children anymore.

 

Well, in the hypobaric chamber in TESB, he had the helmet off and I can't believe that he would be in the suit for decades... While I realize that the front piece of the suit is tied into his breathing and heart, there is no reason not to think that he wouldn't be able to remove parts of it.

When he was on Mustafar, he was laying on his stomach so that most of the burns were on his back, upper legs, arms and head. When he turned over, he was on higher ground and it did not burst into flame. Plus male organs are tucked in between the legs and relatively protected.

It wouldn't be fun for the woman but I think he could theoretically perform, even with the suit. The catheter might be a problem but no more so than many others with that.

Whether he wants to is another issue. It might be a way of punishing himself for Padme's death.

 

Hasn't George Lucas said that Luke could become what the Anakin should have been. That he'll reach the full potential?

Regardless to that, I believe that Vader wouldn't be able to produce children, unless he made a donation to the Emperor Palpatine Coruscant Sperm Bank or EmPaCorSpeBank.

 

that doesnt mean they have the same potential...it just means that Luke can reach a high level that Anakin could have been on...Anakin clearly has more force potential..he is a better pilot...after all he is the chosen 1

 

Despite the fact that Luke has only half of Anakin's midi-chlorian make-up, you have to take into consideration how George Lucas thinks. He says, no matter how much technology you have, if you have the will then you will always win. Even if Luke didn't have as many midi-chlorians as Anakin, in Lucas logic, his will will carry him on to make him as powerful as Anakin was.

 

It seems to mean exactly that. How does Anakin clearly have more Force Potential? Better pilot? He didn't shoot down Luke.

Alright then,Anakin's the Chosen One. But Luke's the Son of The Suns

 

If you remember all of Anakin's body was burnt and mutilated pretty bad. His whole body caught on fire and melted his skin into nothing. When we see him lying on the table his chst is obviously burnt to a crisp....

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So I assume all his male reproductive organs didn't fair so well after being burnt and melted into his skin...Let alone he would be one ugly guy when the suit was off anyway. Robotic limbs, burnt skin, scars everywhere...not very pleasing to the eye.

Even if Luke only has half of Anakin's power--which would be what about 10,000 midichlorian count. I assume that's still pretty high...

But DMWseeker said Luke and Leia are very powerful with the force...more powerful than any jedi or sith before them??? But no more powerful than Anakin?? But Anakin was a jedi before them right?
I'm still sure Leia isn't as strong with the force as Luke is...and I'm going say Luke was still less powerful than the likes of Yoda and Mace as well as Sidious.

 

Luke and Leia have a high midichlorian count.no doubt...after all they are the children of the chosen 1!! but i say again...Luke and Leia dont have the same potential as Anakin as Anakin's destiny was greater than both of theirs, the force gave him the tools necessary to pull off his destiny...

 

Too much of a hassle getting him to reproduce. So he didn't.

 

Anakin could reproduce. If you read shadows of the empire, he can heal his body to normal condition using the force for several minutes. So he could have done it. However, after Vader lost Padme I don't think he was interested any more. And Sidious, I don't think he ever asked Vader to either because Vader could possibly keep the child for himself and rise it against Sidious.

I think the bigger question that arises from this thread is why Sidious didn't have any kids? They would be very powerful as well. And if he could have done it with another force sensitive like Mara Jade? The child would be very powerful.

Or perhaps it's in violation of Darth Bane's rule of 2 in some way. In the Dark Lord novel Sidious claims that with him and Vader ruling the galaxy their destinies have been fufilled no one could topple the 2 of them and their Empire. So maybe Sidious didn't have any reason to.

 

Well, if Michael Jackson can get a woman to have his babies, I'm sure Vader could have done as well!

Anyway, yes I guess it was too much hassle and he had better things to do, like enslaving the Galaxy....

 

Well, there were rumors that Palpatine had fathered a couple of children, but one turned out to be wholly false. The other was suspect.

Sidious was already training Maul, while he was still under Plaugeis. It wasn't until the whole creating life/cheating death deal that Palpatine killed him and shifted gears.

 

Now THERE's a rather 'menacing' image -- Sidious having CHILDREN! Whoa!

Next we'll find out Mr. Burns on the Simpsons has kids too . . .

 

Sidious: "You will clean your room!"

Sidious Jr: "What if I don't?"

Sidious: "Have you heard the Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? He was a Sith child who never cleaned his room. One day, his father became so enraged that he grounded Plagueis. Funny. He could save people from being grounded - but not himself."

Sidious Jr: "What will become of me if I don't clean my room?"

Sidious: "Grounding!!! UNLIMITED GROUNDING!!!!"

 

I think Lucas has said that too.

 

As a longtime Vader groupie, this question - or at least the question of Vader's sexuality - is of considerable interest to me. (Believe it or not, I am not the only one.)

Of course I would like to think that Vader can engage in sexual relations. We know that he can exist without the suit under certain conditions, and we know that the GFFA has super advanced technology that, with a bit of imagination, can enable people to do some pretty amazing things. Realistically, Vader sustained some pretty serious damage to the reporductive organs, but if they can stitch John Wayne Bobbitt up well enough that he eventually became a porn star, GFFA medical technology can probably handle a burnt hot dog just fine. Plus, we don't know how much damage there really was.

The other question was whether Vader would have wanted to be bothered. Padme was his everything, so maybe he refused to address the issue: he wouldn't have wanted anyone else, ever. Although I am sure there might well have been some ambitious, power-hungry and opportunistic women who would have been happy to sleep with Vader for reasons of personal gain, Vader might not want to be manipulated, especially as he knows he's been played by Sidious his whole life.

As far as whether Vader should/could/would have bred, this is addressed in ROTJ by Obi-wan: "The Emperor knew as I did that if Anakin were to have any offspring, they would be a threat to him."

 

Like JediStarKiller2 pointed out, everything was burnt. Everything.

 

Alright Luke could never be anywhere near as poweful as Anakin. First of all Anakin's potential was completly unrivaled, i belive everyone can agree on that. But his power was awesome and terrifying at teh same time. When Luke becomes Angry sure he gets stronger (ex vader threatens to turn Leia, Luke cuts vaders hand off after exploding with rage) but Anakin, completly differnt story, just because Dooku was running Anakin screamed in rage and destroyed an entire temple! No imagine what he would do if it was a little more personal say... Dooku holding a lightsaber at Padme's throat? Anakin would explode. His problem in ROTS is he did not have the experiance to control his power yet. Coupple Anakin's raw pwr, adn Sidious's wisdom/experiance = GOD of Starwars, completly utterly invinciable.

And i belive that had Vader been able to have children (which i dont think he could) he would never allow himself to touch another woman after what he did to padme. he loved her more than anything, and in his rage he killed her (so he belives) And Vader loaths himself for it, like he said to Maul when Maul asked Vader what he could possiable hate enough to be that powerful, Vader resoponds, "Myself." His hate towards himself is unlimited for what he did to padme, have u seen this pic?
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~Azure_Angel

 

Luke, finding his centre of calm. Completely immersed in the Force, making no missteps and fighting off dozens of enemies at a time, not being hurt and not even breaking a sweat. Luke becoming so proficient in lightsaber combat that he can fight with his weak hand against an opponent with two lightsabers and the ability to turn invisible, while having someone else shoot at him. Luke has surpassed Anakin's power level and even if Anakin reached his full potential he would fall to Luke. Even if Anakin is powerful, he is no match for an opponent who is cunning and smart.

 

If Anakin unleashed his rage with his full potential...no matter how clever Luke is he would get flattened.....Anakin was a god who didnt know how 2 use the power he weilded....kinda like bruce almighty being a baby...

 

Are you referring to Luke being cunning and smart?

 

yes..yes i am...