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Darth Vader's Life Span....

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by Anakin_Prime, Dec 1, 2006.

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  1. Anakin_Prime

    Anakin_Prime Jedi Master star 2

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    Ok, here is a hypothetical question:

    How long do you think Vader would live if he didn't get fried by the Emperor in ROTJ or any other lethal injuries? The point I am getting at is, would he be able to keep himself alive abnormally long by using his force powers?? On Mustafar he kept himself alive, and with experience I would think that he has been able to even go beyond that.

    -I think he would have been able to keep himself alive longer than average, but not quite as long as Yoda.

    This just popped into my head one day, what do you think?
     
  2. Red--Five

    Red--Five Jedi Youngling

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    I think you're on the right track. He would have been leaps and bounds among Qui-Gon, and he was 60 in The Phantom Menace(though he didn't look it.) He might live to see his centennial but I don't think he'd make it to 200.
     
  3. Pikaroth

    Pikaroth Jedi Master star 3

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    Probably quite awhile. I, like most others, for example, fully believe that the Emperor is *vastly* older than some think, and I see no reason why Vader would not be capable of the same.
     
  4. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    Official material lists Palpatine as 82 years old, born on Naboo, where Darth Plagueis took him as a child. There is supposed to be a Plagueis novel coming so I assume we will find out for sure. Palpatine does seem to make himself and Plagueis seem older when he calls "the Tragedy" a Sith legend, but it is doubtful any Jedi knew anything of Plagueis and so he is just grasping at Anakin's curiosity.

    EDIT: Oops, that's 82 as of the events of ANH.
     
  5. AaronKenobi

    AaronKenobi Jedi Youngling star 2

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    If Luke doesn't die a violent death in the EU we may just find out how long Anakin could have lived. Luke is at what Anakin should've been power wise.
     
  6. sabarte

    sabarte Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Luke's certainly dead by 160, and almost certainly well before.
     
  7. Anakin_Prime

    Anakin_Prime Jedi Master star 2

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    It looks like everyone is sort of thinking the same thing. I am thinking he could last to 150 - 200 considering his connection with the force.

    -As for Luke, I don't really follow any of the EU past ROTJ. So how was his body holding up as he got older. And someone mentioned Luke died, damn.
     
  8. Master_Starwalker

    Master_Starwalker Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    His body seems to still be holding up exceptionally well. On Luke dying, it's not that he's dead yet, it's that the Legacy comics have(assuming Del Rey isn't willing to simply override what Dark Horse does) have pinned down that Luke's at least dead by the third issue, and he's likely dead at the least during Cade's lifespan.
     
  9. Dark Lady Mara

    Dark Lady Mara Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Leia's probably still alive, though. :p

    Seriously, I wonder if the EU will ever mention Luke's death. I think fans would be totally enraged if they ever killed him. It was probably smart to skip over that era and start in the Legacy era instead so the writers wouldn't have to deal with the problem of all the OT heroes dying.
     
  10. Master_Starwalker

    Master_Starwalker Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Given that there's apparently going to be another big series after Legacy of the Force, I think it's possible that we may see the deaths of Luke, Leia, and Han. I don't think we should, but I think we might.
     
  11. TwiLekJedi

    TwiLekJedi Pretty Ex-Mod star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    they're only 60-ish now. In the next series the still won't be 100, so barring violence there is no reason for them to die yet.

    I just hope they turn them more into Bruce-Wayne-in-Batman-Beyond type of people than into ancient martial arts masters or something


    however, this is all wonderfully suited for the "Big Three after LotF" thread in Lit rather than CT ;)
     
  12. Aeneas_Falco

    Aeneas_Falco Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I'd be enraged if any of them was killed by another character, but would be happy with the OT heroes eventually dying peacefully of old age. The OT was the meat of "their" story, so I think their characters should have happy rather than tragic endings in the EU.

    If Luke's death is ever handled in a EU story it should mirror Yoda's passing in ROTJ, with Luke going contentedly in his bed and passing the torch to one of the younger generation of Jedi.
     
  13. Anakin_Prime

    Anakin_Prime Jedi Master star 2

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    I like the Luke idea. That would be a deserving ending for the Jedi Hero.
     
  14. Master_Starwalker

    Master_Starwalker Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    My favorite versions for the end of Luke are that and Luke going to the planet Millinar(which was created as the Star Wars equivalent of Avalon. I'm fully expecting Luke to reappear often as a ghost though if dies.
     
  15. SEPARATESICKLEROOK2

    SEPARATESICKLEROOK2 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    No. I think the darkside kept him alive, in addition to his suit. Once he returned to the lightside of the force, nothing could prolong his life.
     
  16. Darth_Marciano

    Darth_Marciano Jedi Youngling

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    If he hadn't been fried on Mustafar, I bet he could make it until 200 or so. But the suited crispy Vader could've made it to 120 or so.
     
  17. FoeHammer

    FoeHammer Jedi Youngling

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    Vaders Hate was what Kept him alive along with his Suite . I don't see any logical reason as to why it would give him longer life . Vaders Hate aided him, but in keeping him from Death after Mustafar, not in giving him long life. if it did he would have aged much slower, but he didn't he looked his age and he would have died likely in another 20 years or so. Don't we think this would negate the whole point of Vader /Anakin Trying to learn to cheat Death? Vader never learned how to extend his life or Cheat Death cause he was full of pride and never stuck with the Winning team , The Lightside of the Force. Only the Jedi learned to live forevor. Vader hatred only delayed the inevitable. He was human and would die a mortal Death. I love Vader as much as the next guy , but it's wishful thinking . He was meant to be denied. that's the point. Crime doesn't pay.
     
  18. LordVader66

    LordVader66 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I don't see way Vader, in the suit, couldn't have lived until he was 100, 150 years old. He still had a strong connection to the Force and the suit seemed to be supporting him without problem. I don't really think the dark side kept him alive either, I think it was strickly the suit. As we see with Palpatine, the dark side ate away at him phyiscally. So, if anything, the dark side limits your life span.

    As for the talk of the big three dying, I don't have a problem with it. Han and Leia could both be killed by Jacen in LotF and I wouldn't have an issue with it. Luke's death on the other hand, is different. I wouldn't mind Luke being killed by Jacen, but it has to be epic and very climatic. As Sam Jackson said about Mace's death "He's not going out like a punk". But there is also the fact about Luke, that maybe he should only die of old age because that scene at the end of RotJ, where he looks on at the Force ghosts of Anakin Skywalker, Yoda and Obiwan Kenobi, you just get this feeling that if Luke could bring Vader back and oversee the fall of the Empire, he could do anything, that he was invisible and that he would watch over a peaceful galxay until he transformed into the netherworld of the Force.
     
  19. poe077

    poe077 Jedi Master star 1

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    But Mace did go out like a punk.

    Vader would live only as long as the Force wanted him to. Once Anakin was done bringing balance to the Force, he would have died. Luke saved him and that was all that he could possibly have done.
     
  20. OBIJUAN76

    OBIJUAN76 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I agree LordVader. Yes, I have always interpreted the conclusion of ROTJ to mean that never again would the galaxy's safety be of any question; because Luke would become so powerful that he could handle anything thrown at him as a Jedi. Yes, it did seem like Luke was invisible at the end of the movie. At that point there were no more Sith, so Luke could build the NJO into what it should have always been, with Luke becomming the most powerful Jedi ever!! That is why I have a problem with Luke dying a violent death in the NJO because nobody can hang with him. He essentially became what his father should have become: ultimately unbeatable!!! Yes, Luke would watch over a peaceful galaxy because of hi power, and die a peaceful death handing over the reigns to a new era of Jedi.

    That's just a small problem I have with the EU. The way that I have always seen it, after ROTJ: IT'S OVER! The Sith are destroyed, the Jedi are in control, so why would there be any more problems? Granted, I can understand, certain Jedi in the NJO becoming too powerful and turning to the dark side, but it just seems to me that once Vader is dead, and Luke takes over, IT'S OVER!!!
     
  21. Qui-GonSolo

    Qui-GonSolo Jedi Youngling

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    His suit could have kept him alive for awhile, but I don't think 200 years.
     
  22. emporergerner

    emporergerner Jedi Padawan star 4

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    His life span was probably about less than a normal force using human.


    I think the suit woulsd probably lowe his life span. It barely kept him alive.
     
  23. mrchrisieclass

    mrchrisieclass Jedi Youngling

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    Surely since he was "more machine now", than his lifespan would be that of a droid?
     
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