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Dash Rendar, a question

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Bravo, Sep 5, 2008.

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  1. Bravo

    Bravo Force Ghost star 6

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    I heard Dash Rendar is alive in the LOTF series. Is this correct? I'm spoiling myself, since I haven't even started Exile yet, but its worth it for peace of mind. :D
     
  2. _Catherine_

    _Catherine_ Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Presumably he's still alive during it, but he puts in no appearances of any kind.
     
  3. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The last reference we had to Rendar was, IIRC, during the NJO in a short story in Insider set between books 2 & 3 of the Force Heretic Trilogy. There was also fan speculation that the YT-2400 painted blue in the Enemy Lines duology was the Outrider, but that was never confirmed.
     
  4. Bravo

    Bravo Force Ghost star 6

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    So does that mean Dash is alive? I don't get Insider.


    I've never finished Shadows of the Empire, but I plan on starting it again today or something, along with reading Exile in the LOTF series. But, are they ever going to finish what they started with Dash Rendar? I mean, he's a character mentioned in the character guides for only starring in one book and a video game, maybe some comics but i don't read the comics. So why would LucasFilm put so much energy into the Dash Rendar character to have him only in one book and not bring him back somehow?

    If anything, Han Solo is the smuggler gone striaght and Dash Rendar the good scum bag who stayed scum bag. I think seeing how a smuggler/mercenary (Dash Rendar) lives out their life not going straight would be cool. We get a glimspe of that with Bobba Fett in Bloodlines and I thought it was awsome!
     
  5. _Catherine_

    _Catherine_ Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    As far as we know, he's still alive.

    He's appeared in a few things besides SOTE. Rebel Dawn, Galaxy of Fear: The Doomsday Ship, and Shadows of the Empire: Evolution. GoF was the only one he played a major role in, though.
     
  6. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    He's probably still alive somewhere chilling with Guri and his droid Leebo..
     
  7. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    As of the NJO era, yes. SOTE ends with the characters believing Dash died in the destruction of Xizor's skyhook. However, if you beat the video game on hard (maybe medium also? I forget), you get the ending that reveals he survived and has chosen to lay low and let everyone think he's dead to avoid Black Sun retaliation. The PC version had an animated version of this ending that uou can see here (though the aspect ratio is off).

    Dash's survival was later reconfirmed by the ending to the comic SOTE: Evolution, where Guri hooks up with him at the end.

    We didn't hear about Dash Rendar, for the most part, until his character bio in the New Essential Guide to Characters, which revealed he was performing anti-Peace Brigade sabotage missions during the Vong invasion. The short story in Insider revealed that Dash and Guri apparently tried reproducing Guri's Human Replica Droid technology.


    Mainly because he was a Han Solo stand-in since Han was on carbonite at the time. Once you have Han, you don't really need Dash. I remember back when SOTE came out, people wondered why they didn't just use Kyle Katarn instead (since this was pre-Jedi Knight, Kyle was just the rogue smuggler character type that Dash mostly was). However, I agree it'd be nice to show more of his "if Han Solo hadn't joined the Alliance" character arc.
     
  8. Nobody145

    Nobody145 Force Ghost star 5

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    He's a video game character, so sometimes they tend to show up the main characters of the trilogies, any other Jedi around and/or the stars in the galaxy too.:rolleyes: For most other video games, its fine when your character is the most powerful person around, but in Star Wars, Luke usually isn't the player character, so usually they have to invent some new guy. Dash was partially a Han Solo stand-in, but there were also aspects of him being a bit of a Gary Stu, what with how his ship was a better, later model of the YT-1300, and also like how Xizor was this new, big villain. Fortunately, I thought Dash faking his death was a good idea, especially as this happened in between the movies, so they couldn't change that much, like they couldn't rescue Han from carbonite earlier, although come to think of it, it would be funny if they rescued Han from the carbonite, than Han got put back in, repeated several times, just like with how Boba Fett has been thrown in the sarlacc how many times? [face_laugh] Kyle Katarn gets away with it since his exploits are all post-movies. With TFU, well, the spoiler period isn't over yet, so I won't say too much about that.

    I think there was that short story during the NJO that referred to a company that tried to combine entechment and human replica droids, but I don't think that well, at least according to the Wookiee.
     
  9. Bravo

    Bravo Force Ghost star 6

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    That ending was pretty cool The2ndQuest. Thanks.

    So, I might be asking a dumb question, but are the games now considered canon along with the EU and movies? I know years ago there was that debate, around or after the release of Esp. III, but it sure seems like recently the games are canon. What is the official take on it?
     
  10. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The games are canon, excepting certain game mechanics that're there for enjoyable play.
     
  11. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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  12. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The game stories and certain elements are canon, but things chalked up to gameplay mechanics (ammo, stats, player actions, alternate endings, etc) are not. It's not something recent, either- that's been the way of things for a very long time- long before the release of Episode 3 or even Episode 1. SOTE is the most obvious example.
     
  13. BobaKareu

    BobaKareu Jedi Knight star 3

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    Yep, beating it on Medium will net you the secret survival ending too. I must have beaten that N64 game a hundred times.:cool:
     
  14. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    That game was awesome. It even had a dumb-uncoordinated way to kill the AT-ATs if you weren't hot enough on the thumbsticks to harpoon em. *raises hand*.

    And nothing proves that Imperial tech is mostly garbage than Dash defeating an AT-ST with a hand blaster. :p
     
  15. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    Rendar. At the risk of Katana's incinerating glare, just one of the numerous rugged outlaws permeating the space opera of star wars with the image fast ships and fast guns. And hey, he even has his own Barbie chick. How about that. ;)
     
  16. Katana_Geldar

    Katana_Geldar Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    I have an "incriminating glare"? Oh, I'm flattered, ex.

    I didn't mind Rendar, he's okay but I prefer Han, Kyle and Karrde over him. And apparently Han and Dash were friends, they meet up right at the end of the Han Solo Trilogy before Han goes to speak to Luke and Ben.
     
  17. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    Actually . . . I said incinerating. [dons shades, for all the good they'll do]
     
  18. Katana_Geldar

    Katana_Geldar Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    Incinerating, hey?

    And what's wrong with having more than one Han-type? the exist in this galaxy in numbers more than one, don't they?
     
  19. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    They're cliches of one another. Fast ships. Fast guns. Fast come back lines. Fast babes hanging off their arms. They're the adventurers of dungeons and dragons. Law breakers, they do as they please. Contraband. Narcotics. Arms. Their existence is an affront of perfidy. And like everything in star wars, so male dominated. You don't read many female outlaws. Female Solos. Femolos. The Lupes of Cloak of Deception: live today, who knows tomorrow. ;)
     
  20. Katana_Geldar

    Katana_Geldar Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    [image=http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/b/ba/Jenny.jpg]

    Like this?
     
  21. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    Exproved. Satisfied now?
     
  22. Katana_Geldar

    Katana_Geldar Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    How is that different to improved?
     
  23. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    !! I've given it grudging exproval. What more do you want? :p
     
  24. Katana_Geldar

    Katana_Geldar Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    Ahhh, excellence approval
     
  25. LordHibbidyhai

    LordHibbidyhai Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Morrigan Corde from the Legacy comics could be a female Han (although she might be more of a female Boba Fett). Or Delia Blue could be a female Solo.
     
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