ST Dave Filoni in charge of the ST. What could of been?

Would you agree we would have gotten a far better ST had Dave Filoni been in charge at LF. He's proved himself with the clone wars and now the Mandalorian is looking good as well. He is a real SW fan and I feel the right man for the job.

What are you thoughts?

 

Filoni's is the reason I stuck with Disney Star Wars as long as I did but I'm glad he stayed on the TV series' rather than the ST. Not excusing JJ or RJ but I don't believe anyone could have made the ST great. It was a corporate product, designed to "continue" a story that had already finished, make a quick return on a $4b investment, appeal to mass market nostalgia while remaking the franchise with Disney's own creations - just too many cooks in that stew and too flawed a concept to make it satisfying. Better to stay in the "backwater" where there's much more freedom to focus on plain old storytelling.

 

No.

He did well in animation, but that's about it. He isn't in charge of The Mandalorian, Jon Favreau is. He had no experience whatsoever to deal with such a project, heck, he hadn't even done Rebels yet. All he really had done was one animated project under the guidance of someone else.

Maybe he can try his hand at it at some point in the future, but he is much better off getting at least some sort of experience on live-action productions right now, which is exactly what he is getting from Lucasfilm. Though who knows if movies will ever be his thing. Some people just work better with television, as the storytelling is quite a bit different, you have way more time to build things.

Being a fan means little at all. JJ Abrams and Rian Johnson are huge fans as well. That in itself is no qualification for anything. A non-fan can deliver or fail just as well as a fan can. For every bit a fan can bring in, he can just as well get stuck on just reliving the past, or putting in fancy details hardly anyone cares about that detract from the overall picture. That's what Lucas was good at, he radically cut stuff that didn't fit into his narrative anymore, regardless of how pleasing it may have been to include it.

I don't see any reason to assume that the ST would have been any better with Filoni in charge. He wouldn't have been put in charge in the first place, nor do I think it would have done him any good if he had been in charge. Then again, I don't think the ST needs to be better anyway. The movies worked perfectly fine on their own, even if TFA may have been a bit too heavy on repeating the past.

 

In charge? Hard to say because there is more to it than fans know.

Now - if he (or anyone) was the storyteller for the entire ST, we at least would have had 3 films that fit together. And with his history of writing Star Wars stories we likely would have gotten as close to a GL ST as possible.

 

Not sure about Filoni.

But @Oissan made me think about something: I think what the ST really could have used is a decently hard divide between the director(s) and the overall "show runner" and creators/writers.

Lucasfilm needed to own the ST narrative and structure, and the scripts, and bring really top notch directors in who would shoot those scripts. It worked on the last two movies of the OT and it appears to be working so far on Mandalorian.

 

I’m 100% for Filoni as the show runner of the ST in hindsight. I get the arguments about his lack of film experience, but since JJ has tons of film experience, and RJ had three, I don’t care. Filoni is a proven better serial storyteller than both of them, and importantly, he is that in the context of SW. In terms of Mandalorian, from what I’ve read, he didn’t just direct two episodes. He’s billed as the second executive producer on IMDb for all of season one. And frankly, the first two episodes feel like Filoni and Favreau had a baby, and no surprise here, I absolutely love them. So yeah, I’d vastly prefer that in the ST.

 

Unpopular opinion here.
I think Filoni gets SW as much as someone who is not George Lucas can get. He knows how to write the story and create good characters, fill the worlds with life. Thats what George Lucas does the best.

Its just that Filoni's ideas are usually even worse than George Lucas' bad ideas. Im talking about Force Gods from Mortis arc, time travel from Rebels and resurrection of Darth Maul. I know people say Mortis was Lucas idea but i highly doubt it, at least when it comes to father, son and daughter concepts. He may say "Okay, fine, it may work with a stretch, go, I'm not going to do SW anyway", but i dont think it was initially his idea.
Im really not a fan of those three things.

That being said, I'm all for Filoni to write the story for the next trilogy, tag-teaming with some another writer or Fareau. Put Feige as the producer to check for some bull****. Hire some good director.
And you are fine to go.

 

I do think bringing Maul back was a bad idea, especially now when it's used as support for bringing back Palps.

 

My thoughts are we don't need a thread like this. What's done is done. Locking.