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Death Star with Hyper Drive?

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  1. Tiedott

    Tiedott Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Hello
    My question is: after destroying Alderaan in Ep.4, how did it reach Yavin so fast? it would take hours even with hyperdrive, but the Death Star doesn't seem to have any. it was just moving around slowly. so how did it get that far within a few days?
     
  2. RednepSuS

    RednepSuS Jedi Padawan star 4

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    it would take hours even with hyperdrive

    It would take SECONDS with HD.
     
  3. Tiedott

    Tiedott Jedi Youngling star 1

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    no way; for most journeys they stay in the hyperspace for many hourse until they arrive. even the falcon, which is very fast, only gets up to 1.5x lightspeed.
    but look at how slow the death star is moving... so how did it reach the DS so soon?
     
  4. BaronFel88

    BaronFel88 Jedi Knight star 7

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    Both the sublight and hypderdrive engines are located in the Death Star's equatorial trench.
     
  5. Tiedott

    Tiedott Jedi Youngling star 1

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    what hyperdrive can move that huge leviathan? almost unbelievable ( :p as if the hyperdrive itself wouldn't be unbelievable for us)
     
  6. Blackout

    Blackout Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Well, bear in mind that in space, even the Death Star is weightless ;)

    Also, don't get hyperspace mixed up with lightspeed. You need to be travelling at lightspeed to enter hyperspace, but the similarity ends there.

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  7. DamonD

    DamonD Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    That, to me, is the truly scary thing about the Death Star.

    The Emperor could've made it appear anywhere in the galaxy, within a short space of time. No planet would be safe from it. Want to rebel? A day or two later your entire planet is rubble. That's scary power.
     
  8. AdamBertocci

    AdamBertocci Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    For some reason the notion of the Death Star going into hyperspace is funny to me. Suddenly zooming off in a blip of light. Tee-hee.



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  9. AlphaTrion-TJW

    AlphaTrion-TJW Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well as for the "weight' for the DS, even in space matter still has mass. So the hyperdrive wouldn't just have to worry about weight but mass and overcoming inertia (sp).

    Anyway...

    Yeah I think DS (I & II) had to have hyperdrive. Afterall it'd be a pretty useless weapon otherwise. Nuke one planet and then take a few thousand/million years to get where you're going. I don't think it had a very fast one; judging by the fact that the rebels had time to decrypt, study, come up with a combat plan, brief the pilots, etc...while the DS was inbound; besides there is the whole mechanical stress thing that has to be factored in, power usage, etc, etc..again. More than likely it had a series of hyperdives working on concert in order to push into hyperspace and mantain it there. As for slow moving at sublight *shrug* the thing is a fat as a moon, of course it's going to lumber around like brick.

     
  10. eaglejedi

    eaglejedi Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Exactly. The movie would cover many years, if the Death Star didn't have a hyperdrive. Also, all official reference sources say the Death Star does have a hyperdrive.


    Probably more like one very large hyperdrive. Many of the systems on the Death Star use very large amounts of power, for example the main weapon. The hyperdrive has to move a moon, but the main weapon puts out enough power to greatly exceed the minimum power required to overcome the gravitational binding energy of a planet (see Technical Commentaries). The power used by the main weapon is actually greater than the annihilation energy of the Death Star- that produced by annihilating a matter Death Star and an antimatter Death Star. Some sources describe the main reactor as a "hypermatter" reactor- which sounds like something exotic and very powerful, as it would have to be.


    Heir to the Empire (yes, an EU source) says that Point Five (max. speed of a VSD, and according to Han, also that of the Millenium Falcon) equates to two hundred-something light years per hour.

    If hyperdrive really made ships travel at the equivalent of 1.5 times the speed of light or something like that, the Empire would only be able to control a tiny fraction of the Galaxy. By the time the Queen's ship got to Coruscant in TPM, many thousands of generations would have been born and died. No one would give a ****** about any of it anymore.

    In TPM, it seems to take the Queen's ship a day or two at most, to get to from Naboo to Tatooine, and then a similar period to get from Tatooine (in the Outer Rim) to Coruscant (in the Core). This suggests equivalent speeds at least on the order of that stated in Heir to the Empire, and probably much faster.
     
  11. Tiedott

    Tiedott Jedi Youngling star 1

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    now we really getto see the point why the empire lost alot of money because of the 2 DS
     
  12. Sith Magician

    Sith Magician Jedi Master star 5

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    Wizards did it..
     
  13. DarthLazious

    DarthLazious Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Ineed it had a Hyper Drive.
     
  14. Darth_Digital

    Darth_Digital Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Of course it did. The fact that it followed the Falcon from Alderran to Yavin makes it blatantly obvious.

    For the sake of EU it's hyperdrive is 4 x slower then the standard.

     
  15. Darth-Lando

    Darth-Lando Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    From the Death Star databank entry on the OS:

    "Facilitating the Death Star's realspace propulsion were a network of powerful ion engines that transformed reactor power into needed thrust. In order for the Death Star to be a viable threat, it needed to be mobile. Using linked banks of 123 hyperdrive field generators tied into a single navigational matrix, the Death Star could travel across the galaxy at superluminal velocities. The incredible energies harnessed by the station combined with its great mass gave the Death Star magnetic and artificial gravitational fields equal to those found on orbital bodies many times greater in size."
     
  16. Tiedott

    Tiedott Jedi Youngling star 1

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    what was its source of energy to provide such great amounds?
     
  17. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The same reactor core that powered the station and it's primary weapon, most likely, unless they were powered by secondary generators.
     
  18. Dirty_Harry

    Dirty_Harry Jedi Youngling star 1

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    The Death Star has a low grade hyper drive system. And hyper space, in my theory, is nothing to do with conventional speed, but rather the ability to fold space. The hyper drive would created a wormhole that would be like someone folding a piece of paper and then driving a pencil through it.
     
  19. DarthJohnkenobi

    DarthJohnkenobi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The hyper drive would created a wormhole that would be like someone folding a piece of paper and then driving a pencil through it.

    That's about it. Good post
     
  20. Rex-Wiggins

    Rex-Wiggins Jedi Youngling star 1

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    In the Book Rouge Planet(EU) there is a planet that has a hyperdrive. ;)

    Evil.
     
  21. Tiedott

    Tiedott Jedi Youngling star 1

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    hyperspace can't really be compared to wormwholes or to paper and pencil; you still fly the same way. that's why you need to calculate where obstacles are. and it's still all about speed, even in hyperspace.
     
  22. Mange

    Mange Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    1.5x lightspeed

    Clearly you haven't understood how hyperdrives work. The lower the rating, the faster hyperdrive.
     
  23. Dirty_Harry

    Dirty_Harry Jedi Youngling star 1

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    1.5x lightspeed

    Clearly you haven't understood how hyperdrives work. The lower the rating, the faster hyperdrive.


    It indicates the speed of the hyperdrive itself, and the more the hyperdrive can condense space. It's not an indication of how fast the ship can travel in a coventional sense.
     
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