Did Anakin keep himself alive by using the dark side of the force after his duel with Kenobi?

I belive that after his fight against Obi-wan on Mustafar Anakin kept himself alive by using the dark side of the force.


Anakin sustained some pretty serous injuries after his duel with Kenobi. An I belive he kept himself alive (before he put on the suit) by using the darkside of the force and his hatred for Obi-wan.

To me this is the greatest force feat of the six movies.

Anybody agree,disagree




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I dont agree. I think peeing all over himself is what did the trick.

 

I believe Sidious did use some Dark Side technique after he saw Anakin and kneeled by his side, but I think what kept Anakin alive while he was climbing up that hill was his pure and utter hatred toward Obi-Wan. So mostly his will power.

 

He was rather out of it after the fire went out. But his own black will kept him going long enough. Any longer and he wouldn't have lived.

 

I would say that in a way his force powers kept him alive. Let's face it...any of us lose three limbs and get set on fire....we are done.

I think the dark side was flowing through him because of the sheer anger he felt towards himself, Sidious, Padme, and predominantly, Obi-Wan.

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I think it was mostly because of love, he just didn't want to loose Padmé.

 

Let's face it...any of us lose three limbs and get set on fire....we are done.


But not immediately. Lightsaber wounds are caturized, no large amounts of blood lost. (except for the alien in ANH canteena)If Sids hadnt arrived, Anakin would have had a prolonged suffering death.

 

I think his hatred for Obi-Wan fueled his dark side powers, which kept him alive until Sidious showed up, who helped sustain him until the Shocktroopers got him in the medical capsule, which kept him around long enough to get into the Imperial Rehabilitation Center, which was enough to last until he got put fully in the suit.

 

Well, if his hatred and will are manifestations of or instruments accessing the dark side of the Force, then yes. But if is a matter of using a Sith technique that uses the dark side, then I doubt it as he was still very much a Sith novice.

Btw, I wonder what happened the Banner thread. This one is really cool.

 

THe fact that he was the chosen 1 was enough 2 keep him alive...i think it was his strog hatred and passion with the aid of the force itself...

 

I think his force powers did keep him alive, but I don't think it was necessarily the dark side in him.

 

Anakin lost his legs, his remaining good arm, had his hair burnt off his noggin and his clothes melted to his bod. Adding insult to injury, he is left to die in this humiliating state upon the burning sands of Mustafar.

Sidious knows Anakin is in danger. A Sith is at his finest when he holds all the cards, controls his hate and focuses his violence with the precision of a skilled brain surgeon. Anakin is not as well equipped in the finer techniques of the dark arts. He has talent, he has power, and he has oodles and oodles of hate. But his hate has only one setting on the dial -- the nuclear option! Anakin's rage and hatred are so powerful and uncontrolled that Sidious feels it and knows the danger this type of unfocused outburst can have for his apprentice.

Anakin's fear leads to unrelenting hate. His outrageous outbursts are his ultimate undoing, allowing Obi-Wan to simplify his strategy against his former Padawan and fall entirely on the defensive -- the Jedi version of Mohammed Ali's 'rope-a-dope' moves in the ring. But after Obi-Wan exploits an advantageous moment on the high ground, the tidal wave of absolute hate is what keeps Anakin alive -- his heart, his soul are filled with unending and seemingly unfathomable hatred. He will have his 'revenge.' Obi-Wan will pay!!!!!

 

voodoopuuduu posted:

I dont agree. I think peeing all over himself is what did the trick.

Somehow I don't think there was much of the old, *ahem* equipment left for him to have even attempted performing that action.

As others have said, I think its the pure hate that's keeping him alive. Hate is an amazing emotion, and it does help you focus on your goals when you put your mind to it.

 

I don't get how Anakin hates Obi-Wan so bad. He should be pissed at Padme, but not at Obi-Wan.

 

^^^^^

RE: Dark_Disciple:

I HATE work, I HATE work, I HATE work . . . . .

 

Obi-Chron chanted the following mantra:

I HATE work, I HATE work, I HATE work . . . . .

Hold that thought, and you just might live to a hundred.

Master_Dooodoo, I think there were many reasons Vaderkin lost it and began to really hate Obi-Wan. Sure he was mad at both Pads and Obi on Mustafar, but when dealing with Obi-Wan, well he represented everything good and bad about the Jedi, Vaderkin channelled that into one person at that point, and in all fairness, he chopped off the guys limbs too, wouldn't you be angry and hateful at that point?

 

voodoopuuduu posted:

I dont agree. I think peeing all over himself is what did the trick.

Somehow I don't think there was much of the old, *ahem* equipment left for him to have even attempted performing that action.


Thats what I meant, it was like a fire sprinkler system going off. The 10 cups of Jawa juice he had after the separatist slaughter didnt help matters.

 

I always thought the Force kept him alive. Vader was too burned and in a lot of pain, most likely he was barely awake. I don't really Vader had much to do with it. I mean was he will really strong at that point? Padme was gone, Obiwan took his legs and an arm and Palpatine is nowhere to be found. If I were Vader I would not have much will at all to live. That is why it had to be the Force. Vader couldn't die because he had to complete his destiny to destory the Sith.

 

I will have to agree on the part that he had to use the darkside to stay alive because even with little blood loss he would have been killed by the burns he sustained. That was pure Human Barbeque there and also the pain from losing three limbs would have killed every nerve in his body and he managed to stay awake tells he had help dealing with the pain because a normal humans nerves would have been knocked out by the pain. So Yes I belive that he used the DarkSide.

 

i think his pure will to stay alive at that point kept him alive, to save padme`, to see his son, to stand along palpi to rule his new empire. And he used the force to stay alive at the time.
just people dont get set on fire, lose 3 limbs and stay alive.
HE WASNT EVEN RENDERED UNCONCIOUS!
he just would of needed a lot of power to keep himself alive...so we have got to hand it to him.

 

Right after the duel, maybe. It could have been because he thought Padme was still alive. But it was pretty much just hate and the fact that maybe he wasn't supposed to die until he did what he was supposed to... (kill the Sith). Maybe.

Vader kept himself alive by the dark side and his hatred of himself. The comic where he fights DarthMaul (a clone or some such) states it pretty nicely. Maul asks what he could hate so much that he could kill a more whole Sith, Vader says, "myself". This is why you see the "too late for me son" and why Sidious tells him he killed his wife. He knew exactly how to make Vader hate. And self-hatred is much harder to get rid of. Vader let Obi-Wan live for tweny-five years on Tatooine. If he really wanted to, he could have killed him or had him killed.

 

A Darth Maul clone?? Dare I say that's not canon??

I think it's just poetic license. Of course he'd be dead by normal medical standards. He was burnt to the point that he was just exposed organs and tissue. And he certainly would have been in shock and unconscious. Not crawling around.

To say it was the Dark Side? Perhaps. But that brings an interesting point. Everyone on here says Anakin became a Sith because he NEEDED to save Padme by any means. And then once he's fried to a crisp...surprise! He suddenly knows how to preserve life!!! He knew the trick all along!

 

rhonderoo said:

"Vader kept himself alive by the dark side and his hatred of himself"

I totally agree with ronderoo -- "from a certain point of view."

Anakin's hate of himself, what he'd become and more importantly, what he failed to become were his ultimate undoing. But it is important to note that on Mustafar he is so psychologically twisted that he displaces his self-hatred onto those around him -- those that he loves most.

It seems as if on Mustafar, after slaughtering the TF leadership, his tears imply that he indeed hates himself, perhaps more for the Jedi Temple than for the merciless lot of those miserable souls lying in the control room. But at that point Vaderkin accepts those particular tragedies as necessary evils in order to (a) save Padme, (b) pay back the Jedi Council and (c) usurp the Emperor and lead the galaxy to a monarchy-led era of peace and prosperity.

Obi-Wan ruins those plans. When the Jedi appears on the ramp above Vaderkin on Mustafar, hands defiantly on hips, Anakin snaps and takes out his rage upon the one closest and dearest to him -- the one he loves the most -- Padme. He then delivers an ultimatum to his old master, one he knows Obi-Wan will refuse. In the battle that ensues Obi-Wan keeps his unflappable cool. Precise, skilled logic beats wild, talented rage.

Vaderkin definitely lives because of his hatred -- of this there can be no doubt. And he surely hates himself the most, for what he has done and for what he has failed to do.

rhonderoo said:

"Vader let Obi-Wan live for tweny-five years on Tatooine. If he really wanted to, he could have killed him or had him killed"

There can be absolutely no doubt that Vaderkin holds a serious grudge against his former master for 'making him' kill Padme and their child(ren) that she carried and then besting him so totally.

The remaining Jedi scattered about the galaxy will pay -- Obi-Wan will pay! If Vaderkin knew where Obi-Wan was, he would surely have hunted him down and meted out his boiling vengence in very short order.

 

I believe he did. This is the fantasic irony of the PT, in the end Anakin DID find the key to stopping death. Not for Padme, whom rather than saving, he helped kill (another wonderful irony) But for himself.

I don't believe for one moment that Palpatine knew how to stop people from dying - If Plageus knew how to cheat death, I don't think he passed it on to Palpatine - but the irony is that in the end Anakin had the power/ability to do it himself, through his own hate, anger, guilt, bitterness and dark will.

 

He's mad at Obi-wan because he did this to him. He cut him up. He left him to burn. He claimed to be his friend, but he stabbed him in the back. He turned his wife against him. He sold him out to the Council, instead openly disagreeing with them. He never liked Palpatine. He tried to kill him. He held him back. He didn't help him with his mother. Anakin hates him with every fiber of his being. As he told Padme, it is all Obi-wan's fault. It is his way of justifying everything.