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Did C3PO go against his programming?

Discussion in 'Archive: Attack of the Clones' started by jedi_john_33, Feb 13, 2004.

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  1. jedi_john_33

    jedi_john_33 Jedi Master star 7

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    At the geonisis play area, when all those battle droids were walking out, C3PO walked out with his head on a battle droid body and his body with a battle droid head.

    C3PO's mental and motor functions are controlled through his head, like any other being, except the old school slug bugs, cause their engines were in the trunk...oops...side tracked :D

    Well, 3PO begins to shoot at the Jedi and says, "Die you Jedi dogs" something along those lines.

    Now, since he was shooting at humans/humanoids, wouldn't he be going against his programming of "not to bring harm to a sentient being?" GL obviously added this for humoorr, but, in doing so, do you think he forgot about a droids programming?
     
  2. AdamBertocci

    AdamBertocci Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    How do we know Threepio was programmed as such? I don't recall any sort of line about that, though I could be wrong.

    Remember, Lucas doesn't follow Asimov's laws of robots or anything.

    Also: battle droids, if TPM is any indication, are controlled from remotes far away, and whatever signal is there may have overridden Threepio's other directives.



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  3. Darth_Banal

    Darth_Banal Jedi Knight star 6

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    ^^ yeah. that.
     
  4. DS615

    DS615 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Ah... but where is the programming?

    If it comes from the back pack, then the battle droid body will be in control. So the 3P0 head/ Battle body is correct.

    But if that's true the Battle droid head/3P0 body wouldn't do anything at all. So therefore the programming must be in the head. So the 3P0 head body should still be 3P0.

    So in the end.... it doesn't make any sense, and should have been left out.


     
  5. Mace Windy

    Mace Windy Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Nah, these movies don't always have to make sense - they are all about fun, and the C-3PO head-swapping act was fun! :D






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  6. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    He got new programming from the battle droid parts of him.
     
  7. Darth-Seldon

    Darth-Seldon Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    The not bringing harm to humans is a Isaac Asimov concept.

    I have never heard Lucas use it before.
     
  8. Siri_Ruane

    Siri_Ruane Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Actually, he said "Die Jedi, die!" :D
     
  9. Jainalover

    Jainalover Jedi Youngling star 4

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    It was also a concept addressed in the Doctor Who episode The Robots of Death. But as for Star Wars I dont know.
     
  10. IkritMan

    IkritMan Jedi Knight star 5

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    Maybe 3PO's programming and the BD's programming were duking it out for control, and sometimes he was good and sometimes he was bad? Ahh, just a thought.
     
  11. JediKnightOB1

    JediKnightOB1 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I hated that whole C-3PO debacle. He didn't add levity in that scene. It would have been faster more intense if GL would have removed C-3PO from that scene. R2-D2 came in at the right time and saved the day.

    Put C-3PO and R2-D2 on the sidelines, like in ROTJ during the Battle on Endor.
     
  12. jedi_john_33

    jedi_john_33 Jedi Master star 7

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    i agree.

    C3PO and R2-D2 were over-used in that scene. The fact that Jedi were dying left and right and they were unscathed, boggles the mind...well, with exception to threepio, but he was fixed
     
  13. Mace Windy

    Mace Windy Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It doesn't bother my mind. Why would any battle droids fire upon two "meaningless" robots when they could be aiming at Jedi?






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  14. DamonD

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    Another pair of droids wouldn't be worth bothering about, especially when some Jedi is charging towards you with a lightsabre and a big frown.
     
  15. Jedi_Monk

    Jedi_Monk Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Thinking... The battledroids have droidbrains located in their heads, and receive orders from the antenna on their backpack. The droidbrain with its hivemind mentality (they're shooting at that, so I should, too) was controlling 3PO's body, while the antenna related orders to blast "Jedi dogs" from the TF motherships.

    How's that?
     
  16. jedi_john_33

    jedi_john_33 Jedi Master star 7

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    Actually, he said "Die Jedi, die!"

    oh well. whenever i watch it, i always hear die jedi dogs...i don't know why either.
     
  17. Mace Windy

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    No, it is "Jedi dogs." You are hearing the line for good reason. :)





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  18. RogueWompRat

    RogueWompRat Jedi Youngling star 4

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    I'm thinking battle droids have a redundant control center located within their torso in addition to the head.
     
  19. WMCoolmon

    WMCoolmon Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Did C-3PO actually hit anyone? Just because he was shooting doesn't mean he was violating his programming...Maybe the orders given to the battle droid parts were "Shoot at Jedi" and Threepio shot at Jedi...but intentionally missed.
     
  20. jedi_john_33

    jedi_john_33 Jedi Master star 7

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    Referring to all the points made about George Lucas' not using Isaac Asimov's law of robots to have an affect on the GFFA, can't it be inferred?

    I mean, if you had a protocol/servant droid, babysitting, and some of its circuits fry cause of the kid's rambunctionness...and then the droid beat the crap out of the kid, would you like that?

    i'd like to think that the basic droid would be programmed not to harm a sentient being. I'd hate to walk down the street and step on the metal foot of a droid, and get a metal arm upside the face. i'd rather the droid say it was their fault.
     
  21. ObiwanJohn

    ObiwanJohn Jedi Padawan star 4

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    "I mean, if you had a protocol/servant droid, babysitting, and some of its circuits fry cause of the kid's rambunctionness...and then the droid beat the crap out of the kid, would you like that? "

    Oh I don't know it might be an effective form of discipline :D

    I think it would mainly depend on what the droid was used for. Obivously the battle droids don't follow Asimov's law or they would'nt be any good as soldiers. The torture droid could'nt have that programming either. Although, a landscaping droid, Protocle droid, or Pit droids may have anti violence programming. The droids in the GFFA are extremely advanced seeing as how they learn, issue emotional responses, and develop unique personalities.
     
  22. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    Actually, he said "Die Jedi, die!"

    No, it's "Die, Jedi dogs!" Watch the movie for proof.
     
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