Did Palpatine and/or Thrawn know about the Yuuzhan Vong?

According to VotF, Admiral Parck says that the Outbound Flight Project was launched "better than half a century ago" or something like that. That was spoken 19 years after ANH, meaning that if OFP did happen precisely 50 years from then, it occurred 31 years before ANH - or two years before TPM.

It is said that Yuuzhan Vong agents have been infiltrating for around 50 years - at NJO time. The NJO takes place 25 years after ANH, meaning that 50 years before would mean 25 years before ANH - between TPM and AotC.

But those numbers are all approximate. OFP is close enough to YV infiltration that we can safely say that they fit in around the same time.

Now, we know that Palpatine dispatched a task force with his right-hand man Kinman Doriana to destroy OFP. It may be possible he just wanted to kill 6 Jedi Masters all at once, but is it possible that he also knew about the incoming Vong, and wanted to keep the Jedi Masters from finding out? I just don't see why he'd go to such lengths to kill 6 Jedi Masters.

And, of course, with Thrawn out there, he'd probably find out about it eventually too.

Now, in AoC I: Hero's Trial we hear from Moff Sarretti of Bastion that the Chiss under GA Thrawn were reinforcing defenses for protection against an unknown aggressor.

Speculation, anyone?

 

I may be wring, but didn't they know about the Ssi-whatsits from Truce at Bakura? They could be the unknown threat...

 

Áccording to the Essential Chronology, they SMASHED the Ssi-Ruuk well before the Hand of Thrawn. I believe the unknown threat is still unknown (and I hope that Survivor's Quest helps clear it).

 

okay, then I'm deffinitely wring then.

 

The Ssi-Ruuk were repelled in the weeks following the Battle Of Endor.

 

From TimeTales:

The Ssi-ruuk incident placed the Alliance in a bind. Mon Mothma knew that they had a long and exhausting fight ahead of them to reclaim the galaxy from the Empire. At the same time, they could not allow the Ssi-ruuvi Imperium time to regroup and strike other helpless worlds; with sufficient enteched prisoners to power their war machines, the reptilian invaders might prove unstoppable. The New Republic formed an invasion task force that would journey to the enemy homeworld, with a dozen Nebulon-B frigates and smaller vessels at their disposal. The spearhead of the operation was the repaired and refitted Ssi-ruuvi flagship. The Alliance renamed the vessel the ?Sibwarra?, but her crew commonly called her the ?Flutie? - a derisive nickname for the Ssi-ruuk, due to their musical speech patterns. Life aboard the ?Sibwarra? was exceedingly odd. Throughout their tour of duty, the crew struggled with the ship's baffling onboard equipment. The original bridge controls were replaced with a standardised rig, and Skywalker's protocol droid C-3PO provided a translation glossary of the Ssi-ruuvi written language. Nevertheless, several crewmembers were injured or killed by misunderstood alien devices. Mon Mothma provided the Empire with all the Rebel intelligence data on the Ssi-ruuk, hoping to generate a two -pronged attack. The Imperials, however, were preoccupied with their own problems. It was quite a surprise, then, when the ?Sibwarra? arrived at the Ssi-ruuvi star cluster and found a half-beaten foe. Another force from deep in the Unknown Regions had already attacked the Ssi-ruuvi Imperium on the opposite front, leaving devastation in their wake. Recent interpretations of the data have suggested that the attackers were the Chiss, the blue-skinned humanoid race of which Imperial Grand Admiral Thrawn was a member. The ?Sibwarra? and her escorts engaged Ivpikkis and the alien fleet as they battled their way to the Ssi-ruuvi homeworld. Eventually the two sides reached a standstill. The Rebels attempted negotiations, which proved inconclusive. Apparently satisfied that the Ssi-ruuk could not mount another invasion, Mon Mothma turned her attention to the numerous other crises facing her new government. She ordered the vessels to fall back and assist in the liberation of Clak'dor VII, which was currently struggling for freedom.

Excerpted from ?SW: The Essential Chronology?.

Yeah, it happened weeks after Endor. I don't think the Chiss are actually afraid of them.

It would be cool if the unknown threat had something to do with the Outbound Flight Project (something they discovered or released) and, knowing that Zahn is planning his OFP novel as a prequel to Survivor's Quest,l it's possible.

 

Well, some sources claim, that Palpatine justified his increase of the military with the threat of extragalactic invaders.

About Thrawn, i think it was in Dark Journey, where Soontir Fel tells his son Jagged, that the most (or all) dangers/threats within the unknown regions are eliminated and that they can now concentrate on the Yuuzhan Vong. Which means, that the Vong didn´t belonged to those threats.

 

Three things:

1.)The Yuuzhan Vong invasion did infact begin inbetween TPM and AOTC as described in Greg Bear's "Rogue Planet", a novel that is chronologically three years after the Battle of Naboo (TPM). The book's main planetary focus is on Zonama Sekot, which is where Vergere was dispatched and taken by (guess who? ) the Yuuzhan Vong. Apparently the YV thought that the planet's great ecology would be a great starting ground for when they would invade (NJO being the pinnacle). They would grow certain botany for their existance, but the Sekot of the planet (natives) would always destroy the crops, which eventually led to the Yuuzhan Vong attacking the planet before it went into hyperspace.

2.) Palpatine/Thrawn didn't know about the Yuuzhan Vong. Palpatine got Thrawn to destroy the OFP because if the Jedi found a way to escape the galactic barrier, his plans to rule the galaxy would be ruined since settlement could occur away from the "normal" galaxy. Think about it:

Give some Jedi Masters the chance to go into intergalactic flight, embarking on a mission that could well lead to intergalactic settlement and thus making it a thousand parsecs harder to conquer the galaxy

or...

Destroy the OFP, ending the threat and giving you a bonus in the death of 6 Jedi Masters. Which would you pick, eh?

3.) The "unknown aggressor" was simply something made up by the author, more or less a group of Republic dudes going astray.

Well, that's my opinion anyway.

 

Well, Ken, that's three things.

 

*sighs* Ah, I am so dumb. *corrects it*

Amazing how I can have such an opinion but then mess something like that up. Einstein once went out without his pants, even though he is a genius, so I don't feel TOO bad.

 

Kens right... i took 2 long writein my version....

 

*pats Jai on the back* Thanks alot pal.. *whispers into Jai's ear and gives him 1000 NR credits* Here is your payment, nice acting job buddy.

 

Also if palpetine knew about the impending vong invasion he would set up a fleet of sniper ships on VP and oblitorate ships as they came through the galactic barrier...

What self respecting emperor would allow a bunch of fanatical extra galatic alien outcasts impeed on his personal galaxy... ?


[EDIT] Just thought i should add, outbound flight was 'probably' 31BSW4 and Rouge Planet... the initial Vong incursion was aprox 29BSW4... unless palpetine already knew how to leave the galaxy ( ) then it was impossible under any cirsumstances for him to know about them...

 

I can't remember where I saw it posted, but someone said on Zahn's website, he stated specifically that the unknown threat was not the Vong... I haven't checked his site to verify that, but I'm content with that.

 

Yeah, Einstein...

On topic: many people seem to believe the YV are the unknown enemy Thrawn's clone talked about (which IMHO is very unlikely: why would have the Chiss sent scouts in DJ if they knew the YV beforehand?). Thrawn's clone thought the "unknown enemy" was a real danger for the galaxy. What could be he thinking about? Was it a lie? Who knows! I think Zahn will give us the answer in his upcoming books (you know, the guy loves self-references!).

 

many people seem to believe the YV are the unknown enemy Thrawn's clone talked about

uhh u wat??? ? ? ? ? ?

Thrawns clone has a light saber stuck through its sparti cylinder and then flooded about a month before it reached maturity... can u explain how it was talking about things???

 

Thanks JTS, but I already knew that. *gets all high and mighty* And as far as the "unknown threat" goes, of course Zahn will reveal it in his next books. That is how you make MONEY. Do you kids know what MONEY is? It is the thing that brings the Star Wars Universe to a friggin stand still. It's the kind of things like Zahn and his "don't tell the whole story in one book but fifty" that make us all go crazy! One of these days you'll notice you have a bazillion Star Wars books in your room and you'll be forced out of your house from lack of space and then you'll be livin in a space van down by the Harry Nebula River. You here me? The Harry Nebula River! (kudos to the late Chris Farley )

 

Jai: Oops. Yeah, you're right. It was the Chiss admiral in person. Sorry. You can hit me. Here, in the chin.

KenKenobi: ROTFLOL. Yeah, our cash is the unknown threat.

 

*punches JTS in the chin* hehehehaha. *regains composure*

Yeah, of course it was the Chiss Admiral. A leaking clone fetus cannot talk, let alone give orders and think strategy.

 

Voss Parck is no Chiss.

 

Wouldn't it be cool if we had a book with the Vong invading in the time of Palpatine? Even a fanfic would be cool.
Even Thrawn against the Vong would be uber cool.

 

Lets wait for Zhan's prequel duology and see what gets explained concerning this . . .

 

You make it sound like it's going to be released next week. We gotta wait a lot, you know.

 

Still over a year to go, isn't it? Add another for paperback conversion, and that's extra time for those who only get paperbacks! If nothing else, SW publishing encourages that Force (im)patience meditation!