Did Palpatine really want Padme dead?

Palpatine and dooku send a bounty hunter after Padme, was this to kill Padme or simply to scare her off?

Palpatine would have known about her decoy tactics, being that he knows her well and served as the senator for Naboo. He would also know that after he assigned the jedi to her, that any assination attempt would likely fail.

He even knows her location when she goes into hiding. Anakin discusses the plan to flee to naboo with Palpatine himself. But no assination attempts are made after she flees.

So was the plan to kill her or to simply frighten her away?

I ask this because later in the movie it seems that Dooku who works for Palpatine is intent on killing her.

 

I would say yes, you have a good point but... Well, the only explenation I would have is that he would not want to blow his cover by trying to kill her on Naboo.

The attempt at the begining of the movie I would say was real.

On Naboo if he tried to get her killed it would be obvious that he was the one who tried to kill her because he is one of like 20 or 30 people who knew her exact location.

Why try and risk blowing his cover when he can kill her later.

 

The reason for wanting to kill Padme is that Nute Gunray won't let the Trade Federation join the separatists until Padme is dead. Remember: "I'm not signing your treaty until I have her head on my desk". That's the main reason - they need the Federation in the movement, so they send Jango to kill Padme.

Palpatine also has another motive - Padme is the leader of the opposition to the creation of an army, and Palpatine secretly wants this army to be formed - having her killed would remove an obstacle.

 

I don't think Palpatine really cared one way or the other. My hunch is that he was using the assination attempts as a way of keeping the other senators from rallying to her cause so it served his purpose whether she was actually dead or simply in danger of being killed.

 

Padme is Palpatine biggest threat in the PT next to the Jedi. Basically you manipulate them, abuse them and give them death. Palatine cares for no one. Not Maul, Not Padme, Not Dooku, Not the Jedi, Not the Imperial fleet and Not Vader.

 

it sure seemed he did, the way he was acting and all, i think that he would have been satisfied with her dead or just scared away, all he needed was for he to not be there to try to make people vote no on amendment number make palpy the emperor, and his plan worked, he caused her to go into hiding from the bounty hunter. therefor allowing him to create the army he needed to make an empire.

 

There is nothing in the movies that remotely hints that Palpatine wants Padme dead. Sure Jango was hired by Nute Gunray. But where is the scene where Palpatine tells Dooku in private that she must die? Does someone have a Easter Egg scene on their DVD that shows this?

 

There is nothing in the movies that remotely hints that Palpatine wants Padme dead. Sure Jango was hired by Nute Gunray. But where is the scene where Palpatine tells Dooku in private that she must die? Does someone have a Easter Egg scene on their DVD that shows this?

It never says it in the movie, but it makes sense - Palpatine wants a war and an army; Padme is leading to the opposition to the army. Padme dead = fun for Palpy!

 

Padme dead = fun for Palpy!

Absolutely! I would say though he kind of overdid his ?The thought of losing you?Is unbearable?, pretense.


A humorous line when you think about it. GL is having fun as well

But that is Palps. Deception again his tool.

 

Of course he also was the one to suggest Anakin go with her, probably being aware of what would happen, so bringing about more goodness for him.

 

I think Sid was just putting up with the Trade Federation just to make them happy, one way or the other she wasn't really a threat alive. Probably she helped turn anakin to the dark side.



dkt

 

The plan was to scare the Jedi and alert them to a presence out to get Padme, thus forcing her into seclusion/hiding where she can be left alone to become occupied with Anakin.

One of the two will be so swayed by the romance, that he/she may forsake their duty.

Palps wants a war. He doesn't care how it happens. So what if the Jedi followed the trail to the Clones? They'll never follow it further. The Clones are "for the Republic," so ideally, they are for the Jedi and the Republic to use. When the manipulations of the TF bring droid armies to threaten the Republic on behalf of Seperatists (led by Dooku, who is in on the whole plot and is playing sides), the clones are ready to be rolled out.

Padme's out of the way, the war can happen without too much ado. Anakin may be drawn from the Order because of his love for Padme.

It all works for Palpatine's advantage.

 

I don't think Palpatine specifically intended there to be a romance between Anakin and Padme, but I think he suspected Anakin's feelings for her, either by sensing them, or by him talking about her in Palpatine's presence. He just wanted to throw the two of them together and see what happens, and hope it'll cause more turmoil in Anakin.

 

True, DMM. Palps tends to fly by the seat of his pants, but it's not in an uncontrolled or arbitrary way. He *is* a pretty suave leader. LOL If I was Anakin, I'd buy into it.

When he puts them together, he probably has thought:

Master Plan 2.4
A) Anakin is hot for Padme
B) Isolating Padme from the political issues at hand will benefit me
C) I need Anakin on my side
D) Perhaps putting Anakin and Padme together will produce:
1) A romance which will lure Anakin from the Order
2) A romance which will lure Padme to side with Anakin (who I will get to side with me; Note: See Above, C)
3) A way of isolating both of them while I maneuver the Jedi into a trap
4) A disaster which will let us start the war

He probably didn't want anything in particular, but he must have considered it. He carefully plans for any contingency.

 

"You gotta leave some things to chance, or else it's just no damn fun."
-- Joliet Jake Blues (John Belushi)

 

He did it so Padme would get closer with Anakin.
Thus Anakin would go further to the Darkside and the birth of Luke & Liea would come about.

 

It never says it in the movie, but it makes sense - Palpatine wants a war and an army; Padme is leading to the opposition to the army. Padme dead = fun for Palpy!

But if Palpatine really wanted her dead, then wouldn't he have found a way to kill her that would pretty much guarantee her death?

First of all, as I recall it, he was the one who insisted on Amidala having protection - from Obi-Wan and Anakin. And all he does is send Boba Fett/Zam Wessell to do it?

I'm sure Boba Fett/Zam Wessell would have been more careful with their planning if Palpatine made it clear that he wanted Amidala dead. (Palpatine doesn't strike me as the person who keeps quiet about the fact that he isn't very forgiving.)

Depa Billaba

 

To the contrary my good JCers...Palps wanted Padme alive, just not present for the vote on the Army...If Padme had been killed it may have created a sympathetic feeling towards her cause...The ONLY reason Palps got emergency powers was because she apparently threw in with the other side when JarJar acted like a true Gungan and made the motion....Read the AOTC novel, it says this

 

Read the AOTC novel

Im allergic to novels.

But although it maybe correct, either way Palps wins. Note Palps concern for her, he doesn't really mean it. Palps needing her, will be to the Jedi's eyes that's for sure, that's why even though as Bail said "do you think its a wise decision, under these stressful times?".

Bail knows the Jedi are being stretched (using their limited resources), yet they go along with it.

 

First of all, as I recall it, he was the one who insisted on Amidala having protection - from Obi-Wan and Anakin. And all he does is send Boba Fett/Zam Wessell to do it?

I'm sure Boba Fett/Zam Wessell would have been more careful with their planning if Palpatine made it clear that he wanted Amidala dead. (Palpatine doesn't strike me as the person who keeps quiet about the fact that he isn't very forgiving.)


Boba Fett? Don't you mean Jango Fett?

 

boba .

 

Ouch, SecondBest. I did mean Jango Fett, not Boba Fett.

Depa Billaba

 

What Palpatine REALLY meant:

"Oh, the thought of losing you is QUITE bearable!"