Did Plo Koon survive Order 66?

I guess I should tell you this beforehand: I really like Plo Koon. He's one of my favorite Prequel Jedi.

OK... when I saw ROTS for the first time, I immediately wondered why the vehicle crashes in the Order 66 scene were done so over-the-top. Plo Koon's starfighter doesn't explode and fall to pieces like most starfighters in Star Wars, it only starts spinning and crashes into nearby buildings. Next, Stass Allie's speederbike gets hit, but it doesn't just explode, its pieces fly all around and Allie's body can be seen crashing against the rock formation.
I wondered, why not show a clean explosion? I guess they thought an extended crash would look more dramatic, a prolonged death more absolute, but it didnt't work for me.
While such crashes are quite likely to kill the vehicles' pilots, it's not absolutely sure that they do. Mundi and Secura get shot several times, and when they fall, it's clear that they won't be left alive (even if the false TV show rumors had people create ways for Aayla to have survived).
But the crashes... Look at what Jedi normally survive. You have Obi-Wan falling down onto a walkway during the generator room duel. He still gets up again immediately. Yoda falls down to the senate floor, and is able to escape. Anakin crashes along with Zam Wessell's speeder, and after a small recuperation, he runs off again. No broken bones - these guys know how to take a fall. There are lots of other instances where Jedi take traumas by kicks or hits without being knocked out. Finally, Anakin survives being burned alive long enough for Palpatine to save him.
You could say that all these instances are of strong force users who are more likely to survive, and that Allie and Koon weren't that strong / were involved in harder crashes. But this remains speculation - we do not know if, say, Plo Koon wasn't strong enough in the force to survive this.

So, here it comes: While the film itself obviously intends that all the Jedi die during Order 66, this is what the newest databank update says:

Ki-Adi-Mundi: "Though the Jedi attempted to put up a defense, he was overwhelmed by the gunfire and killed."
Aayla Secura: "...Bly and his troops opened fire, riddling Secura's body with blaster bolts and killing her."
Stass Allie: "Her vehicle exploded, killing her instantly.."

PLO KOON: "Aboard ARC-170 starfighters, the clone commander pilot opened fire. Plo Koon's starfighter spun out of control and crashed into the Neimoidian city below."
CATO NEIMOIDIA: "...Koon's wingmen open fired on him. His damaged starfighter spun out of control and crashed into one of the suspended Neimoidian cityscapes."

It does not say that Plo Koon was killed, a fact that is unmistakenly spelled out for the other Jedi.

So, while I won't go running around telling everybody how Plo Koon will appear in the TV series, I still want to point out that this combination of film material and databank background could be read as if Koon has survived.
And again, I believe the film intends to show us Plo Koon's death. But I guess it takes more than a movie to kill a Jedi...

 

I, personally, think he's dead. I think all Jedi shown in that montage are meant to be dead and that's why they're shown in the first place. That's why people like Quinlan or Shaak Ti may be alive, because they weren't shown. But who knows? Plo may be alive.

 

Quinlan and Shaak Ti are both dead. (I believe Quinlan's death has been confirmed by DH, and Shaak Ti was shown being killed in the ROTS games).

 

Um..where in the game did she die? I don't remember that.

 

Actually, her death is only seen in LEGO Star Wars - though not canon, it's a LEGO-ized representation of what her death would have been in the movie. Though not confirmed anywhere, it's given that Shaak is killed by Vader in her meditation chamber.

 

I want a Quin/Koon Order 66 survivors arc.

You know Quin survived that explosion and Koon survived the crash.

 

Shaak Ti is dead according to the RotS novelization. Plo Koon is dead because his fighter exploded. Mace Windu is dead because he got hurled out a window. The survivors of Order 66 (well, with the exception of Yoda) survived because of the very thing they don't believe in: dumb luck.

 

They filmed two scenes of Shaak Ti getting killed for the film but ultimately cut them due to time restraints and wanting to keep the film centered on Anakin.

In one she was killed in her meditation chamber by Anakin when he stormed the temple, in another General Grievous killed her on the bridge of the Invisible Hand.

Its pretty clear they wanted her dead. She just didn't make it to the theatrical release. It wouldn't surprise me if her death in the temple is included either as an extended version or a deleted scene in the DVD release. Though I must admit, I really would like to see General Grievous actually kill someone on screen, though that'd require explaining how she was on the ship in the first place.

 

I think that all will be revealed in the DVD cutscenes.

PS isnt this the wrong forum for this thread?

 

Plo Koon died during the execution of Order 66. As I've said before I chalk up the fact that he's not mentioned as dying on Cato Neimoidia under his entry as bad editing by whoever entered that database information. Case in point, Plo was originally supposed to die on Mygeeto, if you read the entry for Cato Neimoidia. There it specifically mentions Koon's death.

Sorry, he's dead, Jim...

 

I personally think he is alive. Because if you look closley you'll see that only the wing of his starfighter exploded his cockpit fell off screen.

And it dosen't say he died on Cato Namoidia it says that he was killed on Mygeeto but Koon was moved, not his death. The data bank entrys are very vauge.


This post made possible by Mc-Lan

 

In noticed how they seened to emphasise the death of Aayla more then the other Jedi


Anyway, I'm pretty sure that koon is dead. Surviving a speeder crash is one thing, but surviving an enclosed fighter crash at high speeds, that's something else.


I wondered, why not show a clean explosion? I guess they thought an extended crash would look more dramatic, a prolonged death more absolute, but it didnt't work for me.


I'm assuming that;s to show how brutally, and mercilessly the Jedi were killed. Also adds the dramatic effect

 

The Koon is dead. He was cool, but we knew it had to happen.

I wish he had at least spoken once. You notice the only "minor Jedi" that ever talks, ever, is Ki-Adi?

 

I will burn any source that brings back any Jedi killed in RotS (including Vos and Shaak Ti). It would be utterly pointless and defeat the purpose of killing them off in the first place.

 

Vos =/= dead

 

Plo Koon seems to be the Boba Fett of the PT. All he ever did was sit there and look cool, and then when he died onscreen, everyone was making excuses for him to come back.

 

The thing about watching Jedi die on screen is just that, they die. Koon was cool for a pansy Jedi but he's dead. All the Jedi are dead, especially Cone-head and the space Slut. Well, Obi and the Muppet are still alive but they dont count.

 

I've seen way more people fighting for Aayla living

 

which is why they showed the Space Slut's irrefutable death. Go Clones!

 

Bly says, "She was a good space slut. "

 

Boy, at least theories put forth for the survival of Anakin Solo seemed plausible if unlikely. All of these threads on "my favourite Jedi survived because..." are just sad. Aayla died. Koon died. Shaak Ti died. Vos died. Ki-Adi died. They all died. Let's all get over it and move on.

 

Oh....um okay.....NEVER!!!

 

"Space Slut"? Is that what people thing of Aayla?! That's very upsetting to the Dark Lord of Snuggly Softness...

But yes, she'd dead. I just wonder why in the context of the film she warranted multiple blaster fire after she was already down but the clones stopped firing on Council member Ki-Adi-Mundi once he hit the snow.

Concerning Plo, I know in the SW universe that there's sound in outer space, but even if he somehow managed to survive the explosion of his starfighter, how would he survive exposure to space without an environmental suit?

 

He was within a planets atmosphere. But it was oxygen, were his mask to come off he would die.

 

Oh....um okay.....NEVER!!!
Or not


Ah yes, I once was optimistic myself until the cold realization finally sunk in. Of course, Anakin Solo dying turned out to be a good thing so it all works out in the end