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Did Vader know Luke was fighting with his lightsaber?

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by renx215, Mar 21, 2003.

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  1. renx215

    renx215 Jedi Youngling

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    I awlays kind of wonder if Darth Vader stopped for a second after the battle, and say to himself "Hey wait a minute that thing attatched to that severed hand was Mines!"
     
  2. Jedi_Master201

    Jedi_Master201 Jedi Knight star 5

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    In the book Shadows of the Empire, after the duel he retrieves the hand, along with the lightsaber, and he starts thinking back.


    EU aside, I'm sure he recognized the saber.
     
  3. D_Lowe

    D_Lowe Jedi Knight star 6

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    I wouldn't doubt that Vader regonized the lightsaber Luke was using. It was probably further confirmation of who Luke was and Obi-Wan's involvement.
     
  4. Ret

    Ret Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I imagine he would.
     
  5. MrMan77

    MrMan77 Jedi Youngling

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    Well considering how many times Jedi seem to loose their lightsabers, I'm sure he didn't happen to remember the last one he lost. After all, Owen didn't remember 3p0. :)
     
  6. mjerome3

    mjerome3 Jedi Knight star 6

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    I'm sure he would notice his own device. But it's twenty years since he's laid eyes on it.
     
  7. DamonD

    DamonD Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    "Hmm, nice blue blade on that one. I like the tint and shade. Looks like it has a good balance, too. Hmm..."
     
  8. badboys

    badboys Jedi Youngling

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    Yeah, lots of sabers have blue blades. I'm sure he didn't get a close up look on the handle that was grasped in Luke's hand.
     
  9. atomik

    atomik Jedi Padawan star 4

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    "Owen didn't remember 3p0"

    But Owen didn't construct threepio, Anakin constructed his lightsaber.

    I think if he looked at it then he probably would recognize it as his. Anakin's saber hilts are much more unique compared to the hilts of other "minor character" jedi in the PT.

    But he probably would pay it no mind. In sword fighting, the last place you focus your vision on is the hilt of your enemies blade. You need to pay attention to your foe's gestures and the actual blade itself.
     
  10. Delorean_Kenobi

    Delorean_Kenobi Jedi Master star 3

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    Well if he did notice it was his old lightsaber then it would have been definite proof to him that both Obi-Wan was involved and that Luke was in fact his son.

    Of course if he didn't know it was his old lightsaber then it might have been from the fact that he was too busy trying to stop Luke chopping him in half at the time to stop and inspect the hilt of the saber!

    Personally I never thought that Vader recognised it or that he even looked at it. If he did notice it he was probably thinking "Oh Great, he managed to get hold of a lightsaber. Brilliant...just brilliant..."
     
  11. C-Bjedi

    C-Bjedi Jedi Youngling

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    But didn't Vader aleady know Luke was his son? Surely he realized Obi-wan had given Luke the lightsaber.
     
  12. Delorean_Kenobi

    Delorean_Kenobi Jedi Master star 3

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    He definitely knew that Luke was his son, he searched his feelings so he knew it be true. ;)

    The evidence of the lightsaber would have confirmed to Vader that Obi-Wan was involved.

     
  13. jedi_quinn

    jedi_quinn Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    "But Owen didn't construct threepio, Anakin constructed his lightsaber."

    Yes, but anakin also constructed 3-PO, and he didn't remember him did he!!

    Just to complete the circle.
     
  14. D_Lowe

    D_Lowe Jedi Knight star 6

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    "I see you have contructed a new lightsaber. Your skills are complete. Indeed you are powerful as the Emperor has forseen."
    --Darth Vader


    Vader knew that he never contructed his own lightsaber before. I think he knew Luke was using his old one.
     
  15. Delorean_Kenobi

    Delorean_Kenobi Jedi Master star 3

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    That's a good point D_Lowe.

     
  16. atomik

    atomik Jedi Padawan star 4

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    "Yes, but anakin also constructed 3-PO, and he didn't remember him did he"

    How can you say that? What did you think Vader was going to do, run over to threepio, throw his arms around him, give him a long hug?

    Vader: "Hey Threepio! How's it going ol' buddy! We need to catch up, forget this Empire - Rebelion thing, let's go get a cup of jawa juice."

    He could have recognized threepio as well as his saber, but since he's not Anakin anymore, it doesn't matter much to him.
     
  17. Phantom-Iam

    Phantom-Iam Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I think Vader knew
     
  18. Your_Best_Bastage

    Your_Best_Bastage Jedi Youngling star 1

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    damn internet connection and it's causing of me to double post. feel free to delete this mods.
     
  19. Your_Best_Bastage

    Your_Best_Bastage Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I think the reason why he does not overly care about 3PO or his lightsaber is in the ROTJ line.

    "That name no longer holds any meaning for me."

    Vader, though he is evil, is constantly struggling with himself and basically ignoring his "imaginary friend" (think about it, he made 3PO as a young child) and his lightsaber he is trying to prove how evil he is to himself.

    Vader internal dialogue: You bad. Yeah, you bad.
     
  20. D_Lowe

    D_Lowe Jedi Knight star 6

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    Threepio looked a lot different since the last time Anakin/Vader saw him in Episode when he saw him in the ESB. Since Threepio had a memory wipe and looks different, Vader and Threepio have no idea of their connection. Especially since Threepio's name was not used in the Carbon Chamber.
     
  21. jedi_quinn

    jedi_quinn Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    You could also say that Vader only knew it was a new lightsaber because he sliced off Luke's hand a few years earlier on Bespin.

    And if you believe the EU, he then went on to retrieve Luke's hand and the lightsaber.
     
  22. stacysatrip

    stacysatrip Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Of course he recognized it!

    Your father wanted you to have this when you were old enough

    And by gosh, there it was!

    I'm sure he recognized 3PO as well, but at that point in the film, 3PO was the least of his worries (though I still say 3PO is why he kept Boba Fett from shooting Chewie [face_laugh]).

    I also don't believe that he totally forgot his life as Anakin. If Anakin Skywalker didn't mean ANYTHING to him anymore, then why would he acknowledge Luke as his son?
     
  23. DarthMandarb

    DarthMandarb Jedi Master star 2

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    Of course he recognized it!
    Your father wanted you to have this when you were old enough
    And by gosh, there it was!


    This was what I was going to point out. I think Anakin, when he decided to make his own lightsaber (possibly even his red one) gave Obi-wan the old one and said 'I would have liked to have given this to my son one day' or something like that.

    It wouldn't suprise me at all if something like that happens. Then, what Ben tells Luke, would be true ... from a certain point of view.

    dm
     
  24. Your_Best_Bastage

    Your_Best_Bastage Jedi Youngling star 1

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    He would acknowledge Luke as his son for the very reason I said, he is in constant conflict with himself and the presence of Luke increases the conflict. He wants to be bad (perhaps because the Emperor convinced him the dark side is the only way to true good, something Vader later discovered false) yet he has a hard time doing it ALL the time.

    Why else would he tell Luke "don't underestimate the power of the dark side" right before trotting him in front of the Dark Side's poster boy?
     
  25. Ceethreepio

    Ceethreepio Jedi Knight star 5

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    Vader knew because if you see in jedi,Vader is fondling with Luke's lightsaber.
     
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