Lit Did you ever predict a Star Wars concept?

I remember when I was 9 (in 2002). I just saw Attack of the Clones and it blew my mind. I was (and still am) a voracious writer. My elementary school had us have something called a “Writers Notebook” and I remember I had two by the end of the year. I wrote a ton of stats and stories about Star Wars and since I was so exhilarated seeing Dooku shoot Force lightning; I came up with Jedi Lightning that a Jedi could fire that would be green instead of blue. I KNOW Electric Judgement appeared in a video game with Plo Koon but I didn’t know about that stuff. I also remember it was yellow. Then in 2003, The New Jedi Order: The Unifying Force came out and debuted Luke using green Force lightning. This was my headcanon and it eventually happened.

I’m not pretending I’m a genius that came up with such a novel idea; anybody with half a brain could have predicted it but it was exciting for me back when I was a kid.

Anyway, do any of you have similar stories


P.S. My working title for Revenge of Sith was ‘The Birth of Vader’. Pretty lame I know

 

I'm sure some better examples will come to mind, but some prequel scenarios I thought of eventually happened. Of course, they're just kind of story-mirrors of things from the Classic Trilogy, but because I knew Lucas liked to reuse concepts and themes, I figured it was a good chance. One was that Anakin would lose a hand in Episode II, and the other is that Anakin would face off with Dooku with Palpatine watching, much like how Luke and Vader dueled, with the "winner" becoming the apprentice (or at least going from how Palpatine would have wanted it to go in RotJ, had Luke chosen "correctly.")

I also figured that Wookiees and Kashyyyk would come up in Episode III, especially since it was the original plan for RotJ and I figure Lucas would throw a bone to the fans and make it happen as a reverse-mirror to the Ewoks fighting the Empire.

 

Not sure if this counts, but the night before the Season 2 finale for Mando premiered, I had a dream that someone in X-Wings came to help Mando and co. fight Gideon's forces. Except in my dream, it was Carson Teva and his squadron or something like that.

An X-wing did end up showing up to help... I just wasn't expecting it to be the X-wing, you know...

 

Extremely random one, but it still weirds me out:

In 2003 I wrote a short fanfic about Jocasta Nu and Jerec. This was when Jocasta was still new to the EU (and in a way I guess Jerec was too). In the story, Jerec is doing some crazy archaeology gig finding lost relics, and his reluctant not-so-great padawan is following him around. Jerec seeks help from his old master, Jocasta, in order to find the artifact he's looking for. Ultimately events in the Clone Wars ruin their search and the padawan rebels against Jerec thinking he's a bit insane, although Jerec thinks the padawan is insane. The two start to fall to the dark side but decide not to speak of it after their mission goes awry and they return to the Temple and are separated by the Council, who realize something had gone wrong. The padawan gets put under Jocasta's supervision after that. I had a name for the padawan, but the idea was he would eventually become Blackhole.

What is weird is that Jocasta would not become Jerec's master in the real EU for many years (I think Abel Peña did that somewhere, like in an Insider Magazine article). When I wrote the story, literally nothing had ever been done with Blackhole except his old 70s comic. He had absolutely no connection with Jerec. The real EU eventually had him be one of Jerec's mentors. So a version of the relationship among the same characters as that story eventually evolved completely on its own.

 

Shortly after Solo premiere was thinking about perspective of Crimson Dawn becoming more of a antiheroic organization Cerberus-style, helping good guys from the Rebellion against the Empire. Did not expect this to happen right as I was imagining.

 

Not star wars but i had a dream about the human/xenomorph hybrids from ALIEN RESURRECTION a week before i saw the movie. This one to be precise:

 

On the subject of dreams, about a month before The Force Awakens came out I had a weird dream that the movie would turn out to be an avant-garde art film that was nothing but the camera following people as they climbed up and down stairs. Thankfully that prediction from my subconscious did not come to pass, but...

 

Also on the subject of dreams, I remember posting in the Episode IX thread - I think maybe before it even had a name? - that I had a dream about seeing it in theaters but that the only part I could remember was a giant domed city full of high-tech Ewoks. Which, sadly, did not prove an accurate prediction... but there were Ewoks in the movie, at least.

(I'm sure I called actual plot developments in at least some works, but this strikes me as funnier.)

 

There have been times I have been way off and times I have been really on the money. While reading the chiss ascendancy this year I correctly predicted that Thrawn’s sister was a Skywalker and that she would appear in the story.

in the flip side I made the bold claim that Ventress and Mother Talzin wouldn’t be mentioned in Ahsoka cause they died like 30 years ago in universe. Boy was I wrong.

 

Somewhat the dyad idea... but 15 years early.

Back in ROTS speculation days, 2003-2005, I thought that the reason why Palpatine always desperately wanted an apprentice, and his secret to cheating death (somewhat part of 2003 spoiler leaks from Darth Friday) but the reason why none of his apprentices could do it (this was before Maul's "resurrection"), was that the Sith Master leeched off of the Sith apprentice. That as long as the Sith apprentice lived, the Sith master could not die, there was some kind of bond in the Force... but if the Sith Apprentice decided to break that bond, which would only be to kill the Sith Master, that was the only way they would die, but that would continue the Sith. So Vader being redeemed, breaking the bond and killing Palpatine, but also allowing himself to die with no apprentice waiting and turning back to the light, is what destroyed this Force leech abomination that cheated death and truly brought balance to the Force.

I'm still a fan of this theory, and think it's somewhat better than what we got, in both ROTS and TROS But TROS made it partially come true, from a certain point of view.

I also predicted that there would be a superweapon unveiled in Destiny's Way. I was wrong about the New Republic building a Death Star, definitely looked too closely at the cover for hints, but (though it's a stretch) I did predict a superwearpon being a moral test for the New Republic in the NJO. It just came in the form of the Alpha Red engineered pandemic to genocide the Vong.

I did also predict Mara would die in LOTF... but many made that prediction

There's some other cases where I was close, but those are the main ones that came to mind first. I'm much prouder of how much I predicted of Deathly Hallow, right down to Harry learning to accept death in the Forbidden Forest (based on JKR interviews and what the Centaurs hinted at in book 1) - I hope the archive of my DH prediction still exists soemwhere, there used to be a separate subforum here just for non-SW book speculation.

 

I'm sorry, this is more of a tangent and more for me, but I got it!

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I'll bold the ones that came true, or very close to true.








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Date Posted: 4/15/06 11:34am Subject: RE: Harry Potter Time Capsule for Book 7 Okay, I'll try this. But I'm always chaning my mind, and will probably want to add a million things after I post this.



-With Dumbledore dead, Voldemort and the Death Eaters will not be holding back anymore. Evil will be winning. It will be very hard for the muggles not to notice unusual things, and tragic "accidents."

-At the start, Harry will be anxious to leave the Dursleys. But around the time he leaves Aunt Petunia will share something with him, and show that she really does care. Dudley will share what he saw during the Dementor attack. Uncle Vernon will get what he deserves.

-Death Eaters will attack during the Weasely wedding, one will die.

-Ron might accidentally get them into danger.

-Hermione will be put in grave danger/captured.

-Ron will finally prove himself to Hermione and they'll become boyfriend & girlfriend.

-Harry will go off and leave Ron and Hermione behind to keep them safe, at some point.

-Neville will have something important to tell Harry.

-Something might be revealed about his frog, Trevor.

-We'll finally might Luna's dad, who might have some important info.

-In the village of Godric's Hollow, Harry will meet a muggle neighbor that escaped from getting his memory wiped because of all the chaos. He witnessed the entire thing. Through the penseive, Harry will finally see exactly what happened that night.

-Gringotts will return.

-The goblins, centaurs, merpeople, giants, house-elves will all have a role to play.

-Dementors will also return and be important again.

-Harry will be reminded about Regulus, and his middle name, by Kreacher. He will then go back to Grimmauld Place to look for the locket, and then remember Mundungus. And he will eventually get back to Hogsmeade, and be properly introduced to Dumbledore's brother.

-He will learn about Dumbledore, his family, his past. And things which might be of help to Harry to defeat Voldemort.

-Something about Harry's parents will be revealed, like their jobs. Lily might have been an Unspeakable in the Department of Mysteries.

-Harry will travel all over the world and get help from the friends he has made.Might visit the other schools.

-A dragon battle in Romania. Norbert returns.

-One of Voldemort's horcruxes is in Egypt, in a pyramid where Voldemort travelled to in his past that might have been helpful to him.

-We will find out exactly what Voldemort has been planning to do with his "war."

-Voldemort will find out about the prophecy, and that Harry knows about the horcruxes.

-LV will set up guards at the horcrux locations. So at one place, Harry will have to deal with Greyback and werewolves. At another, the blonde Death Eater. At another, Bellatrix. At another, Snape. At another, Wormtail. At another, Dementors. Etc.

-The Final Battle will be somewhere in London, or the Forbidden Forest.

-Voldemort will probably be working on some kind of magical superweapon, which would end the war. This is why (in-story) Harry must rush to destroy the horcruxes, and kill Voldemort, within a year.

-The magical weapon will probably be something that makes Voldemort more powerful, and have to do with the ancient magic. Maybe something that will allow him to perform an Unforgivable Curse (or some kind of curse) on the whole world. Or something to do with fear, time, dementors, luck, ... something that was mentioned in an earlier book.

-The Mirror of Erised will return.

-Mr. Ollivander is really on the dark side. Has been helping Voldemort on a new wand, and the magical superweapon. Maybe the secret to Lily and Harry's eyes is that they can tell the truth about a person, but Harry's sense of this is sometimes off because of his glasses?

-Harry MIGHT be a horcrux. If he is he'll learn it early on, & throughtout the book he'll be learning to deal with his upcoming death to accept it when the time comes.

-After being the lone hero for most of the book, Harry will go back to Ginny and his friends, and remember that love is his strength not his weakness.

-Harry will face Voldemort completely alone this time, his friends will be holding off Voldemort's supporters. Harry will come as Voldemort is literally finishing up his magical superweapon. Harry's blood being in Voldemort will protect him somehow, or maybe foil Voldemort's plans.

-Since in HBP we learn that Voldemort likes using blood in his inventions, it could come into use here. Like Voldemort starts up his magical invention, and only he can stop it (through the mark of his blood). But his blood is Harry's blood, so Harry can stop it with his own.

-Or, if it's true Harry is horcrux, he stopped being one when his blood went back into Voldemort.

-Wormtail OR Snape (not both) will betray Voldemort at some point. But both will be dead by the end.

-The prophecy will NOT come true, in some way. Harry is ready to die and accepting of his fate after his journey through the book and the series, but something unexpected happened & he will realize/remember there is no such thing as fate. (like what POA taught with the time turners, & Dumbledore's lessons)

(If Harry does die, he'll probably die doing the same sacrafice for Ginny that his mother did for him, and this time Voldemort will die because of no horcruxes. But I don't think this will happen.)

-Voldemort might be killed in some other way, maybe the magical invention backfires. Maybe his memory is wiped, and he can start over again as a good person. Maybe he is given the Draught of the Living Death. Maybe he attracts the attention of the dementors and has the last piece of his soul sucked out.

-My favorite idea about what happens to Voldemort: Maybe he is frozen in time, alive forever BUT powerless. Left only with the memories of what he did and his shame and regret of his life. Which will slowly drive him insane and torture him over eternity. (Maybe this is that water/ice spell Dumbledore tried to do on him in OOTP).

-The curse on Defense against the Dark Arts teachers at Hogwarts will finally be broken. The new teacher (also the only one Harry never gets to know by being away) will stay for many years.

-Hermione will be a professor, unspeakable, or other job that you need a lot of brains for. Ron will be married with her. Neville will be the new Herbology teacher, Professor Sprout probably died sometime during the book. McGonagall will stay Headmistress for a long time.

-The nonhuman races will finally become equal. Umbridge will work with centaurs for the rest of her life.

-Harry will marry Ginny, and become an Auror. But he'll constantly be at odds with the ministry of magic, and capturing the last dark wizards and witches out there in the world. But he'll keep to himself, and most will not realize he is Harry Potter after a few years. His celebrity problem will be over. Across the world, he'll be known only as the man with the scar.

 

So, not me, but at the moment I'm the beta reader of a fanfic series called Tarkin's Fist. In 2009, in the first installment of that story, the author of that series created and developed the OC character of Phasma Yos, the daughter of an Imperial Admiral. Fast forward to 2015 and the name Phasma is being used for a First Order Stormtrooper Captain.

 

I definitely had Dark Empire in mind for Ep IX before the Palpatine reveal at Celebration Chicago based on some things said in Aftermath. Once the Celebration panel happened and Ian McDiarmid walked out, it was settled for me. Despite many others hoping for a hologram or ghost instead.

 

I don't get how i haven't seen a single person who predicted this as well, but when i saw the first trailer for Episode IX and saw the title, i thought that the title meant that, at the end of the movie, Rey was going to adopt the Skywalker surname, and i had that pet theory all the way up until it was fulfilled in the movie.

It was the only thing that made sense to me given such a strange title, i saw wild theories about how after winning the day she was going to establish a Force Sensitive order called the "Skywalkers" (did she copy the chiss?), i saw people that thought it referred to Luke coming back to life, or something related to Kylo, but i thought that, given Rey still didin't have a surname, she was simply "Rey", and Luke died, with Leia definetly going to die in this movie (due to Carrie Fisher's absence, plus i am not sure if she even goes by Skywalker instead of Organa by the time of the ST), thus it would make sense that Rey would take that surname as she was their legacy.

Thus it felt really weird when i saw a bunch of people getting really mad about it on the internet, i was like "wasn't it, like, obvious ever since the title?"

Am i crazy? Has anyone else predicted this?

 

Before AOTC came out, I thought that Palpatine and Sidious were actually different people. I thought that Sidious would use the Force to swap bodies with Palpatine, and eventually become the Emperor. Well, come TROS it turs out they eventually do give him the body-swap power.

 

Even though I still figured it wouldn't likely happen, back around the turn of the millennium I always thought that the idea of Sidious being an actual different person and/or clone of Palpatine was an intriguing idea that the fanbase genuinely wouldn't have seen coming and I kind of kept it in my pocket as a low-key theory that I would occasionally mention to my buddy. Of course, it would also be somewhat redundant, since the whole pleasure of Episodes I and II is in seeing Palpatine appear good-natured while we as the audience know that all of his devilish schemes are coming together.

 

Yeah, one day it just occurred to me that if senator Palpatine lowered his voice somewhat, he would sound just like Sidious. Then I was like "ohhh..."

 

I know a guy who predicted this about a year before TLJ.

 

I actually think it would be kind of interesting if George had went with the Dark Empire idea of "that wasn't the first time I've died" and made Senator/Chancellor Palpatine a clone of Sidious rather than the other way round. Similar to Sidious using Snoke as a puppet, he could have used his clone as a puppet to work his political machinations. Running with what seems to be the case in canon, it being a clone or strand cast that has no Force-sensitivity would make sense of why the Jedi never sniff him out as the Sith Lord.

 

I was plotting my own space opera years ago (I barely even remember the plot anymore, ended up not going anywhere).

But the middle part of the story was going to be an inverse of Empire Strikes Back where you are led to believe the orphaned protagonist was some kid of royal blood, but the big reveal is that they were essentially chosen at random and are “a nobody”

well…

also, as a kid, I had an overactive imagination and plotted out these elaborate Star Wars scenarios in my head that I used to play with action figures:

A stormtrooper squad that goes rogue and their insignia is adopted as the Rebel Alliance symbol. (I actually started writing this as a fanfiction on this website back in the day, never got past the opening.)

Another was a squad of clone troopers discover Order 66 and try to warn the Jedi, and end up trying to assassinate the chancellor. This ends with the lead clone character getting chased through the underbelly of Coruscant and cornered and shot by other clone troopers. So pretty much predicted everything about the chip arc from The Clone Wars

 

@Ghost Funny thing about that proto-dyad theory is that it also winds up somewhat matching Darth Wredd's real motive in Legacy vol. 2 (which was itself compared to the ST more than once on here!) Although it lacking the supernatural component means it made a lot less sense, especially since his surface motive was already entirely convincing.

 

That actually sounds like a rather cool idea.

My "big" prequel theory that I maintained from about 2001-2005 was that Mace was going to be revealed as a traitor. There had been quotes going back to the early/mid-'90s from Lucas saying, "You won't know who the good guys and bad guys are," in the prequel trilogy, and as Episode I and II went on I kept thinking how cool of a twist it would be to have Mace pulling strings from within the Jedi Council. There are even a lot of shots in each movie that suggest a dark/moody vibe that is coming from him during some key scenes (such as Anakin being tested, or Obi-Wan contacting Mace and Obi-Wan about the Clone army) that perfectly set it up. For me, Palpatine and Dooku and all of their dealings were an obvious threat, but I genuinely still think that something like Mace could have sideswept the fans.

I just think it was ironic that in Revenge of the Sith, Palpatine is still telling Anakin, "He's a traitor!" as he Force-lightnings Mace and they have their duel. Me and my buddy still get a laugh out of that one as we recall my long-held theory.

 

I actually thought that too! I never got the fandom for Mace, as he often seemed to embody some of the worst of the PT Jedi.

Soon after AOTC, I actually thought that Mace would somehow be responsible for Padme’s death in Episode 3, probably due to a “greater good” for the Jedi and the Republic, thinking she was in cahoots with Palpatine since she was also from Naboo and led to him becoming Chancellor. And that driving Anakin to the breaking point, very understandably. (I just wasn’t sure how the timeline of the birth of the twins would fit in)

There was also talk of a Jedi Traitor to be revealed that Lucas mentioned in AOTC commentary, especially with the Jedi archives. Very clearly implied to not be Dooku (or Sifo-Dyas) with the main candidates for speculation being Mace, Ki-Adi Mundi, a young manipulated Anakin, and Jocasta Nu.

I actually think the main reasons why Lucas decided to not make Mace the traitor are
- it might have disappointed Samuel L. Jackson
- it would be a bad look to make the only visible Black character the traitor for two trilogies in a row. (Though they did also make a big deal about Finn being a traitor too, even if it was for the good guys).

 

I don’t think Mace is representative of the worst of the Jedi or was ever intended to be a traitor.

 

I don't think we are ever supposed to take any of the Jedi as bad, except the ones who actually break bad.

We walk into TPM knowing Anakin is going to become Vader. The Council sensing something dangerous in him is so obvious I hesitate to even call it foreshadowing. They aren't wrong to be skeptical of the boy and refuse to train him at the start. Qui-Gon, while largely more representative of an ideal Jedi, is also clearly willing to overlook the potential for evil in training Anakin.

I'll always consider it pretty bizarre that fans, because they can't really relate to celibacy, ascribe Anakin's character flaws to the Jedi Council and the rules of the Jedi Order. Even if the Jedi allowed marriage, they wouldn't make fruitless promises of saving Padme from death because a fundamental tenet of their order is to accept the will of the Force and that death is part of life. No matter what, Anakin would still need to learn acceptance of death or the prospect of losing Padme would still make him vulnerable to the temptation offered by Sidious.

Mace is just a tough personality, not particularly warm most of the time and like every other Jedi blind to the machinations of the Dark Lord of the Sith right under their noses. I confess, I'm not even entirely clear on how being more like Qui-Gon Jinn would actually clue them in to what was going on. Perhaps only if they didn't allow themselves to be drafted into the Grand Army of the Republic, even then I think an impossible situation was deliberately set up. At best, Qui-Gon would have better been able to teach Anakin such that he would have been able to let go of his attachments at the crucial moment... But that doesn't mean compromising the teachings of the Jedi Order.

Mace *can* be a dick, but for good reason I think. Plus, you don't hire Sam Jackson to be a softy.