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Differences between Anakin ROTS saber and Luke ANH/ESB saber

Discussion in 'Costuming and Props' started by mr_Goodbomb, May 13, 2006.

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  1. mr_Goodbomb

    mr_Goodbomb Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I'm looking into getting a MR saber. They don't make an ESB Luke. I know that the main switch is different on Anakin's (gold inlay rather than LED bubbles). Any other differences?
     
  2. Primrodo

    Primrodo Jedi Master star 4

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    The entire saber is differnt. I mean the shapes are similar but the overall design, size, parts are all completly different.

    Anakin ROTS: http://www.rebelscum.com/mranakinROTSsaber.asp

    Luke ESB: http://www.rebelscum.com/mrlukeesbsaber.asp
     
  3. mr_Goodbomb

    mr_Goodbomb Jedi Youngling star 1

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    So why hasn't MasterReplicas made a Luke ANH/ESB?

    ...And, as far as continuity goes... How can they get away with it?
     
  4. FETT-MAN

    FETT-MAN Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Actually they have made a Luke ANH/ESB FX Saber, but it was back when they were first developing the technology and hadn't mastered the technique. It's an EL saber, therefore does not contain the power up/down effect. It also isn't as bright, either. I think the Anakin AOTC is the same way, but I could easily be wrong. The original Luke ROTJ saber was this way, hence why they re-released it (btw, I love mine). Now, as far as the actual sabers: why are there so many differences if they're suposedly the same saber?
     
  5. Primrodo

    Primrodo Jedi Master star 4

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    No, MR made a Luke ESB LED saber, so it had all teh effects, only the Anakin AOTC and Luke ROTJ was EL, far as I know.

    Heres the thing, Lukes saber was based on a peice of camera equipment from a company called Graflex. Specifically they grabbed the flashbulb handle and the prop makers added some black T-track, a bubble strip from a calculator to full in the empty clamp space, and a Dring...and viola, a lightsaber. A similiar procedure was used for Darth Vaders lightsaber, though with a Micro Precision Parts (MPP) Flash handle.

    Obi-Wans ANH saber was built from many many parts. So when ROTJ came around Lucas wanted a lightsaber and not a real world item with embossed text all over it and Luke pretty much had a machined version of Obi-Wans.

    Que Prequels where Mr. Lucas has the resources to make LIGHTSABERS and not a hodgepodge foundpart extravaganza, so that when ROTS came about he had them base the sabers on the OT ones but make them look unique and unlike a found part.

    In a way they are supposed to be the same saber, and the averge viewer will never know, heck many never knew all the details that changed on Lukes from ANH-ESB or Vader who has had a different one in every movie, and yet is supposed to be the same. Or did you notice that Luke has 3 distinct sabers in ROTJ ;)
     
  6. mr_Goodbomb

    mr_Goodbomb Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I realize that, in-universe, Obi-Wan made a few upgrades and repairs to Luke's saber and his own over the years between Luke's birth and 0BBY. Same goes for Vader's own saber.

    I know what their made from, and I know that Luke's ROTJ was the only one actually machine-made. The differences on-screen with props from the same movie are generally differences between the stunt props and the more attractive mains.

    I like the way the Graflex and Heiland hilts look; they're classic. While I realize Lucas has the means to do whatever the hell he wants... why? If you got it right the first time, or have a legion of fans who'll notice, why bother?

    Either way, are they coming out with a new Luke ANH/ESB MR? Has anyone tried to modify their Anakin MR to be more like Luke's (changing out the switch, for example, removing the design around the flash attachment band, etc)?
     
  7. neo_mp5

    neo_mp5 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    http://www.partsofsw.com/skysab.htm

    http://www.partsofsw.com/esbsksab.htm
     
  8. FETT-MAN

    FETT-MAN Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Three different ROTJ Luke sabers you say?[face_thinking] And what :-B figured that out? Oh well, if you've been on these forums you're obviously a :-B yourself, too. So what are all the differences between these 3 sabers? I'm curious, after all, I have the fx saber. And if the original Luke ROTJ saber was LED, why is the new one brighter?
     
  9. sal

    sal Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm shocked that you never noticed this in the movie..
    I wasn't aware of 3 different ones, but I was of the v1 and v2.
     
  10. xwingband

    xwingband Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Parts of SW is your friend.:D

    There was a "hero" saber and a stunt. The most visible differences are the color of the neck. One is copper the other lighter and looks like brass but is copper paint. The stunt was resin so it was painted and had a different tri-ring.

    The "V.2" saber was a shared Obi-wan stunt. It's missing all of the copper and is cast metal. This one was used in a lot of key scenes.
     
  11. mr_Goodbomb

    mr_Goodbomb Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I find POSW to be somewhat inaccurate, and definitely incomplete.
     
  12. xwingband

    xwingband Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Well, a lot of it's still very debatable. Like I've seen huge discussions on trying to find out how many sabers were used in one film... and it was a long winded discussion too. POSW is pretty accurate in what it does say. They take a lot of their info from the RPF board and they don't take this stuff lightly. If there's any doubt they will not call it 'the' part used.
     
  13. UltraSWG

    UltraSWG Jedi Youngling star 2

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    The Luke Skywalker ESB FX was LED, not EL. It was basically a very big graflex replica.

    Only two MRFX sabers were ever EL, The Anakin AOTC and original Luke ROTJ.
     
  14. mr_Goodbomb

    mr_Goodbomb Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Ultra,

    Since you're here, when it comes to your MR conversions, does it matter what what model of MR someone sends you, or will the results be the same with every model? Also, if the blade has the famous "dark spots," will your conversion remedy those?
     
  15. Primrodo

    Primrodo Jedi Master star 4

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    [image=http://home.bellsouth.net/coDataImages/p/Groups/20/20300/folders/42841/263191lplabeled.jpg]

    :)
     
  16. UltraSWG

    UltraSWG Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I only convert certain sabers, namely the Luke ROTJ, Darth Maul, Darth Vader ESB, and Anakin ROTS, after which, they all perform the same. If the blade has dark spots already, my conversion fixes that.
     
  17. mr_Goodbomb

    mr_Goodbomb Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Thank you.

    I haven't had the opportunity to handle one of these in-person. When I saw them up-close, they were still new on the market, and stores (namely Boarders and Spencers) were very against letting customers toy with a 150 dollar product. [face_shame_on_you]

    Which of those four has the most accurate size and form?
     
  18. UltraSWG

    UltraSWG Jedi Youngling star 2

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    The Darth Maul is the most accurate, it's pretty much dead-on. The Vader and Anakin are a very close second.
     
  19. mr_Goodbomb

    mr_Goodbomb Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Lots of questions, I apologize. I'm just very interested.

    Do you do 5-watt mods to MRs yet?
     
  20. UltraSWG

    UltraSWG Jedi Youngling star 2

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    MR boards run on 4.5 volts, Luxeon 5's need 7 volts to run. So an MR can't power a Lux 5.
     
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