Dinner with Vader at Bespin. I wonder what went on?

I proposed this question on the "Why did Vader torture Han at Bespin" thread. The thread got a little off topic and I realized I was taking it further off topic with this question.

Sorry but, I'm a Newbie, gotta forgive me! (I wonder how long I can get away with that phrase?)

Anyway, any ideas? Realistic or humorous?
Did VAder take off his helmet to shove mashed potatoes in his mouth? Was their a food fight? Did Han ask Vader to "pass the turnips?"

Or did Vader simple discuss the terms of their imprisonment? (boring)

 

Actually, They all ordered a Pizza and talked about the good ole days.



HaaaauuuuuKuuuuuu *breathing* "Captain Solo.... Pass MEE a PIECE of Pizza.. Please... The Works WILL Dooo..."

 

After Vader insisted on Han saying grace, they enjoyed a fine meal, with a lively conversation about all of Han's misadventures, Leia's political past, and Chewie's earlier imprisonment by the Empire (to which they all had a good laugh).

 

He probably had them eat or had them taken away.

 

Actually, the rest of the scene was deleted. After the doors shut, Vader took off his helmet (revealing Rick Moranis as the real actor underneath the costume) and proceeded to dance around going, "I can't believe you fell for that! That's the oldest trick in the book! Dinner? Dinner? You thought we would have dinner? I can't believe you fell for that!"

 

........

 

He made them prepare his meal (using a blender) and made them watch him eat...through tubes.

The slurping sounds were the fast stage of torture.

 

It could've been a lot worse...Vader could've stood up Lando.

 

Darth Vader tells Han Solo, "Way to distract me so that Skywalker could blow up the Death Star. You'll pay for that one."

 

I think that Vader as well gave them a Feast and I think he put a little Food Posioning at the feast.

 

He tortured them by:
A. Telling bad jokes.
B. Telling them stories about his childhood.
Vader: "When I was little I lived on Tatooine! Wanna hear all about it?.... race pods... work as a slave..."
Everyone else: "Zzzz"
Vader: :okes them all so they stay awake::

 

Funny Stuff guys! Great!

You all make a newbie like me feel important
for responding to my thread!

Now on a more serious note: I seem to recall
in the trailers for the original ESB (I'm so old) that Chewbacca threw over the entire
dinner table in a fit or rage.

Then when I saw the movie this of course didn't happen.

Did thise scene really exist or was I just
on too many death sticks? (wait a minute? ? i was only 10 or so. I didn't even know what a gimer stick was)

 

What if Vader partially admired Han? "We would be honored if you would join us." Han's a helluva pilot, like Anakin. Han evaded all the Star Destroyers and successfully navigated the asteroid field. As Greedo and the beginning of the dinner scene indicate, Han is quite an accurate shooter. But Vader's encountered talented pilot space cowboys before. What makes Han special?

Han saved Luke's life.

Han saved Anakin's son.

Although Vader recognized the pilot in the X-wing in front of him was strong with the Force, he did not know it was his son. If I recall correctly, Vader made some comment such as "I have you now", referring to the fact that he had Luke in his sights and was about to open fire on the X-wing. But what happens instead? Han shows up and knocks Vader into orbit (or out of orbit, or, whatever).

It is my feeling that Vader was, on some level, grateful to Han for saving his son's life. Perhaps Vader even wanted to meet the person who was guided by the Force (or not?) to save his son. So, y'know, maybe Vader wanted to meet Han in person. Han, the person who saved his son. Han, the person who will marry his daughter. (; And so Vader was able to partially 'forgive' Han for those few blaster shots.

 

Han may have saved his son, but he also directly caused the destruction of the Death Star and the death of a million men (and probably earned Vader a thrashing at the hands of Palpy, too). I think the costs outweigh the benefits there. If Vader had really decided in that moment in the trench to take Luke alive without letting him get a chance at destroying the DS, he could have just disabled the X-wing. Everything we see of Vader in that scene suggests that he can hit enemy fighters anywhere he wants to.

 

Some valid points indeed. I just think Vader had some Force sense in regard to Han because of Han's role in the Skywalker family. Some type of future- or extra- perception, if you will.

Back to the dinner table. Does anyone have any info on this supposedly-deleted scene? Why was it cut? Will it ever be released? I mean, what did they talk about? Dangit, now this is bothering me.

POSTSCRIPTUM SIDENOTE: know what else is bothering me- the deleted scene between Han and Leia after she asks him something like: "and then I guess you're as good as gone?" He gives her a caring look, and immediately the camera cuts to a different scene, but the damned packaging on the special edition has a picture from that deleted scene.

C'mon GL, stop torturing us and release the deleted/outtake footage. (;

 

"It is my feeling that Vader was, on some level, grateful to Han for saving his son's life. Perhaps Vader even wanted to meet the person who was guided by the Force (or not?) to save his son."

I hadn't even considered that scenario. Fantastic observation!

(See, metaforcesaber, I ain't got nuthin' against you. )

"he also directly caused the destruction of the Death Star and the death of a million men (and probably earned Vader a thrashing at the hands of Palpy, too)."

Vader: "Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed."

Vader was never too impressed with the DS anyways (nor was he even in charge of it, so it wasn't his baby.) Besides, whatever thrashing Vader got from the Emperor obviously changed his mind towards the emperor, making him doubly grateful to Luke & Co. If anything, it really opened his eyes to other possibilities.

"Everything we see of Vader in that scene suggests that he can hit enemy fighters anywhere he wants to."

That's a stretch. Maybe he's the one who taught all the stormtroopers how to shoot.

(DLM, on the other hand, I do have a personal beef with... )

 

Vader (to Han): "Didn't your mother teach you any manners?! In my day, we would help a lady cut her fruit and then send it to her on a plate. Look at the Princess and how well behaved she is! Her mother obviously taught her well. If I ever had a son-in-law like you, with such bad table etiquette, I would encase you in carbonite. (aside to self, in a whisper) I probably shouldn't have said that out loud.

(To Leia); Speaking of your mother, how is she doing? I haven't see her, well, since before your were born."

I know, I should have put this in the "Rewrite the OT in Light of the PT" thread.

 

Does anyone have any info on this supposedly-deleted scene? Why was it cut? Will it ever be released? I mean, what did they talk about? Dangit, now this is bothering me.

Good questions Metaforcesaber.

And I was serious about what I said in my post before this one.

Does anyone know if Chewbacca tossed the table over?

I'm not saying this happened, I'm only saying I think I saw this in an original trailer.

Maybe, instead of having Solo shoot at Vader,
Lucas had a scene where Chewbacca takes on the initial confontation upon entering the room before the stormtroopers surrounded them.

Then maybe Lucas decided it would be better for Han to be the active aggressor, just as in ATOC, Lucas decided that it was better for Dooku to interogate Obi Wan than Amidala.

Does anyone remember this? If not , does anyone have comments? Please?

 

I had never heard of that before. However, in the radio drama of ESB, the scene is extended to show Han and Chewie trying to take on Vader, but Vader puts a Force choke on Chewie, threatening to strangle him to death if Han doesn't back down. It's possible this was another scene Brian Daley resurrected that had been cut from the film/script the way he did with some scenes in the first radio drama.

 

Maybe, instead of having Solo shoot at Vader,


Perhaps in the deleted scene, Vader shot first.

 

Don't cause trouble DB

I just wonder what kind of wine was chosen for the event.

I see Vader as a Shiraz drinker.

Han would like his blends, maybe a Cabernet Savignoun.

Leia would like a softer wine, perhaps a merlot.

Lando, the alcoholic that he is, would like cask wine for sure - quantity over quality for him!

And Chewie would drink anything as long as was in a bowl.

 

Hey dude, DarthB is cool!

He's just expressing the humor I asked for in this thread

But anyway, Spacehunter24 , is this stuff for real?? ? ?

I ask this only because your choice or words:

the scene is extended to show Han and Chewie trying to take on Vader, but Vader puts a Force choke on Chewie, threatening to strangle him to death if Han doesn't back down

leads me to a description of something "seen" and not "heard" and this
is a radio drama. ?

Did you mean a narrator on the program descibed what was happening between Vader, Chewie and Solo?

If this was the case, can you give me more details as to how it was described?

 

The dinner scene in the ESB radio drama was almost certainly written by Brian Daley, and did not appear in any first drafts, but who knows. Personally, I don't think the scene was ever written further than it was in the movie. Here's the dinner scene in the ESB radio drama:

LANDO: I've just made a deal that will keep the Empire out of Cloud City forever.

LEIA: Congratulations! Perhaps you'll reveal your secret to us. I'll enjoy hearing just how it's done.

LANDO: Ah, here's the banquet hall. Enter, please.

HAN: You don't have to ask twice. When it comes to a meal for -

<Vader breathing>

LEIA: Han!

VADER: Greetings, Princess Leia. Captain Solo. It has been a long chase. Would you care to sit at my table?

HANquietly) No thanks.

LEIA: Han, we can't let him take us.

HAN: He won't. So long, Vader! <blaster bolts> ... that's impossible! No body stops a blaster bolt with his hand!

LEIA: Han, it's no good.

VADER: As you well know, Princess Leia. Solo, I weary of this. You won't be needing your precious weapon ever again. Watch ... it flies to me. <sound of blaster coming through air> You see. Firearms are of no consequence to me.

<Chewie roars>

HAN: I'm with you, partner, let's take him.

LANDO: That's Vader, Han! Nobody -

HAN: I thought you knew, Lando, me and the Wookiee don't go to jail. Hey, you in the funeral outfit! Let's find out what you've got besides parlour tricks! Chewie, you get him on the left, I'll handle the right.

VADER: Yes, come. I await you, Solo. If you dare ...

HAN: Don't flatter yourself! You ain't the biggest thing me and the wookiee ever tackled, pal.

VADER: The wookiee's life is forfeit, Solo. I need you, but I shall strangle him before your eyes.

<Chewie growls as though choking>

LEIA: He'll do it! Han, believe me! It's Chewie's life!

VADER: You capitulate, Princess Leia?

LANDO: Lord Vader, give him a chance to surrender. He can see there's no choice -

VADER: His chance is this moment.

LANDO: But he's no good to you dead! You said so! In a fight, you might kill him!

VADER: Yes. I shall make this simple for you, pilot. Commander, bring in your men.

LEIA: Stormtroopers?

LANDO: Yes, Cloud City's filled with them.

STORMTROOPER: Cover the doorway. Keep your weapons trained on the rebels.

VADER: Here's someone else you'll recognize, Solo. Come in, bounty hunter.

BOBA FETT: Hello, Solo. Jabba the Hutt sends his warmest regards ... he's looking forward to seeing you.

HAN: Boba Fett. What did somebody do, kick over a rotten log?

BOBA FETT: Joke while you can, Solo.

VADER: I await your decision, Solo. Does the Wookiee die?

LEIA: Han ... he's got us.

HAN: She's right, Chewie. I guess you win, Vader.

VADER: Of course, Captain. Although, I am disappointed. I would have enjoyed our little contest.

HAN: Another time. Lando, I hope the word gets out on you.

LEIA: No wonder you called Han a double crossed, Lando. The word must have been very much on your mind.

LANDO: I had no choice. Vader and Fett arrived before the Falcon. I'm sorry, Han.

HAN: I'm sorry too.

VADER: Not nearly as sorry as you're going to be, Captain Solo. For every insult, you will scream a dozen times.

 

DLM, on the other hand, I do have a personal beef with...

Har de har de har.

Do you honestly think Vader's perception of Palpy would have been changed by his witnessing whatever response Palpy had to the destruction of the DS? Vader already knew about the difference of opinion between Palpy and himself (after all, he obviously held the DS in low regard while Palpy was the one who authorized its construction), and if he was punished by Palpy, it almost certainly wasn't the first time he'd taken a beating at his master's hands (Episode 3, here we come ). The sense I get from ESB is Vader has secretly held the same opinion of Palpy for many years but has been waiting for the right moment to reveal it.

 

"Do you honestly think Vader's perception of Palpy would have been changed by his witnessing whatever response Palpy had to the destruction of the DS? Vader already knew about the difference of opinion between Palpy and himself (after all, he obviously held the DS in low regard while Palpy was the one who authorized its construction)"

I'm not necessarily saying that this is how it went, but it's possible. It's hard to tell Vader's feelings for the Emperor in ANH, when the Emperor is only mentioned once, and by Tarkin rather than Vader. Vader clearly holds the Force in the highest regard, and Palps is certainly considered the most powerful Sith Lord (at least at that point in time ). It's not an unreasonable assumption.

Even if Vader did have negative feelings towards Palpatine, he never bothered to resolve them until Luke showed up, hence his "gratitude" towards Han - at least in regards to torturing him, rather than killing him outright.