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DivX = Piracy!?!?!?

Discussion in 'United Kingdom' started by Jairen, Feb 10, 2003.

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  1. Jairen

    Jairen Manager Emeritus star 4 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    OK, so I'm not around much these days, and I only wander in from time to time, but I have to say something about the locked thread further down the page about the request regarding DivX.

    DivX Thread

    First off, whilst very early, and I mean very early, versions of the DivX codec were cobbled together from a backwards engineered MPEG codec, the current release of DivX is fully legal, is a purchaseable commodity and is even used by commercial software houses to code video.

    In fact, the lastest edition DVD players also support the new DivX codec. Reactionary responses to requests regarding problems with movies, and please note here that the person who posted the original question does not mention anything about pirated movies, should be researched before automatic closing of the thread. I am involved in a fair amount of amatuer film making, and the DivX codec is great for making the film small enough at a high enough quality to put it on the net and not have issues with downloading it.

    Whilst I understand that some of his comments could be construed as looking for a place for the best "pirate" downloads, just asking for information about where to download films isn't enough in it's own right. A better response would have been to redirect the poster to the DivX website and say you weren't aware of any AMATUER film sites, but perhaps to ask in the Fan Films forum (on the JC I hope you'll note) as they would have more information. Please note as well, that many of the posters on the Fan Film forum also post films in the DivX format.

    Anyway, rant over. I just wish people wouldn't be so reactionary without doing a little research into the facts first.
     
  2. toochilled

    toochilled Jedi Knight star 5

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    Indeed. Furthermore DivX has been sponsored by the film industry also since it *can* support a finite viewing level on the file {ie, a movie can be encoded so that it is only watchable a set amount of times. The idea is you could buy a film on the net for $x and watch it once without being able to copy it / watch it as many times as you want.}


    DivX is used to encode pirate films. But so are many other codecs. Linking DivX and piracy as has been done here is libelous.
     
  3. malkieD2

    malkieD2 Ex-Manager and RSA star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    indeed, how inappropriate of me to put the words "DivX" and "piracy" in the same sentence. Even the name DivX;) is a mocking reference to the earlier DivX video, which had stressed its anti-piracy features.

    malkie
     
  4. Jairen

    Jairen Manager Emeritus star 4 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    At what point did any of us refer to DivX;) malkie?

    DivX (As owned by DivXNetworks Inc) is a fully legal MPEG-4 based codec. It is currently patent-pending and as I have said before is used by game industry and film industry to distrubute film content across the web.

    One example would be blizzard.com who's latest video for Starcraft:Ghost is only available in DivX for the PC/Linus platform.

    Before reciting the same tired response, actually do some research on your source material.
     
  5. Darth_Asabrush

    Darth_Asabrush Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Oh well not to worry. If this particular system is not piracy then sobeit....
     
  6. malkieD2

    malkieD2 Ex-Manager and RSA star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'm sure no-one ever uses DivX for illegal purposes ;) . DivX has been, and will always be associated with internet piracy.

    I didn't say that anyone mentioned DivX;) - I merely stated the name of the codec (DivX) came from a mocking reference to a format that boasted anti-piracy protection.

    If thats not rude, then I don't know what is.

    malkie
     
  7. Dusty_Bin

    Dusty_Bin Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Feb 4, 2003
    Hi. If ANYBODY wants to PM me about the matter and help me out then it would be appreciated. Thanks.
     
  8. Swedish_Sith

    Swedish_Sith Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Well, I agree with most of you guys... DivX WILL probably always be used for Internet piracy, we can all be pretty sure about that. However, I would like to think that we will see an expanding market for DivX distribution. For an example; Blizzard Entertainment will be using the DivX format for their cut-scenes in all their future games.
     
  9. toochilled

    toochilled Jedi Knight star 5

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    ALL codecs can be used for piracy.

    Get over it.
     
  10. EagleIFilms

    EagleIFilms Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I just looked at the thread in question, and as I member of the Fan Films forum, I'd like to also point out that many many many fan films are only available in DivX format.

    As are a ton of films that are available at DivX.com

    While the guy MAY (I stress MAY) have downloaded an illegal bootleg film, just saying that it was encoded using DivX means absolutly nothing.

    If you take a minute to research, as many people in this thread have, you will see that DivX has many uses other than bootleg video.

    Also, as was just pointed out, ANY codec can be used for bootleg video, DivX just happens to be the best avi codec out there.

    EDIT: two more points. As regards what malkie's been saying about the name of the codec (DivX;)), it doesn't matter what the orginal intent of the codec was, it's what it has become that matters, and what it has become is a perfectly legitimate codec.

    Second point: If I posted a threa 'Help with sharpening knife blades ect' and then asked that I had just bought a knife, and I wanted to know what to get to sharpen it, would you immeditaly lock the thread because I could use the knife to kill someone? I don't think so, because knives have many non illegal uses.


    ?Eaglet
     
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