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Do the Star Destroyers have shields?

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by Naboo1, Feb 25, 2004.

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  1. Naboo1

    Naboo1 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    When the Star Destroyers are roaming through the asteroid feild, one of the asteroids just slams into the vessle causing major damage!

    Again, in ESB, when the two Destroyers scrape each other, the Captain just calls out, "Take evasive action!"

    Again, shouldn't he have called out, "Shields up, quick!"?
     
  2. Ein_Miu_Core

    Ein_Miu_Core Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Yes they have sheilds :)

    Well if the two were crashing into each other sheilds wouldnt do much to help.

    Star Wars sheilds are described as an exoskeliton sort of. Their sheilds dont stick out in a dome like in Star Trek. They have them you can see them go out when the ion cannon hits them.
     
  3. BaronFel88

    BaronFel88 Jedi Knight star 7

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    The particle deflector shields are meant for proton torpedoes and other warheads, not massive asteroids or other Star Destroyers.
     
  4. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    Yes, they have shields. It's just that the one in the asteroid field had gotten pummeled by so many asteroids, its shields collapsed.

    Actually, most shields in the GFFA are "bubble" shields, although a few do have hull-hugging shields.
     
  5. Katana_Geldar

    Katana_Geldar Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    TIE fighters don't have shields don't they?
     
  6. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    Most TIEs do not have shields. Only custom models, such as Vader's, have shields (or hyperdrives, for that matter).

    The reason is, the Empire wanted to make the TIEs as cheaply as possible, so they didn't include shields, hyperdrive or even life support.
     
  7. Naboo1

    Naboo1 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Vader's does, though, right?

    I don't think the X-Wing's have shields.

    Does Cloud City have shields?
     
  8. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    Vader's TIE does have shields and hyperdrive. So do X-wings.

    I'm not sure if Cloud City has a shield system set up, though.
     
  9. Errant_Venture

    Errant_Venture Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The reason why Piett ordered evasive action is because the deflector shield covering the Bridge was destroyed. On an Imperial Star Destroyer the shields are generally located on the two towers (easily seen on any ISD/VSD/SSD). Some might have them located elsewhere, but most it is on the two towers.

    Ignore the "....", they are just to get the carot to the proper place.

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    *=where shield generators are typically located. Oh, and my drawing sucks, I know that. :p
     
  10. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    I truly think that is the best rendition of a Star Destroyer that I have ever seen. GL should put that in the movie instead of those crappy 3D models!
     
  11. BaronFel88

    BaronFel88 Jedi Knight star 7

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    [face_laugh]

    I believe one of the domes is a particle deflecor shield generator and the other is an energy deflector shield.
     
  12. DarthLazious

    DarthLazious Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Yes they do.
     
  13. 4LOM

    4LOM Jedi Youngling star 3

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    They do, but you must keep in mind that the Star Destroyers were massive ships flying through a very crowded asteroid field.

    Star Destroyer Captain (via hologram) to Vader:
    "Considering the damage we've sustained, they must have been destroyed."

    The Destroyers shields were probably taxed to the limit, taking asteroid hits constantly. That one unlucky Destroyer must have had a shield failure.

    BTW, what happened to the rest of that ship? We see it's command tower demolished, but is there a back-up bridge that the remaining crew could use to steer the ship out of there? Do SD's automatically seal off the interior from space in the case of a massive hull breach like the one we saw? Did that SD have to be towed to a shipyard for repairs?
     
  14. Errant_Venture

    Errant_Venture Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Now that I think of it, that is a good representation of an ISD. :)

    Yes, ISDs do have a backup bridge, this is generally located in the center of the ship. So the ISD was probably brought out of the asteroid field under her own power.


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    So as one can see the X marks where the backup bridge is located. My, that is another wonderful depiction on my part. :p


    Hmmm, you know I think I'm going to start making depictions instead of explaining them. A picture is worth a thousand words you know. :p
     
  15. DS615

    DS615 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Those "globe things" on the bridge tower are sensor pods. They are not shield generators.

    WEG, Decipher, and a host of others have repeatedly gotten this wrong. I assume it stems from a misinterpritation of the RotJ scene.

     
  16. JediMasterChiefYoda

    JediMasterChiefYoda Jedi Master star 3

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    Besides the effects of the asteroids, ya gotta remember that these are the same destroyers that survived the Battle of Hoth, so some of them are still bearing the effects from the Ion Cannon.
     
  17. Darth-Lando

    Darth-Lando Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Those "globe things" on the bridge tower are sensor pods. They are not shield generators.

    They are most definetly shield generators.
     
  18. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    >> I don't think the X-Wing's have shields. <<

    They do- "switch your deflectors on-double front", "stabilize your rear deflectors- watch for enemy fighters", etc.

    >> Those "globe things" on the bridge tower are sensor pods. They are not shield generators. <<

    Officially, they are.

    >>I assume it stems from a misinterpritation of the RotJ scene. <<

    What is there to misinterpretate?

    ::A-Wings destroy the dome and the SSD command tower starts shaking from that explosion::

    cut to:

    ::interior of command tower- STILL SHAKING from the explosion as the crew member goes to a console to see what just happened, and then reports- "Sir! We've lost our bridge deflector shield!"::
     
  19. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    Those "globe things" on the bridge tower are sensor pods. They are not shield generators.

    PPOR

    WEG, Decipher, and a host of others have repeatedly gotten this wrong.

    How can they be wrong? Do you have proof that they're wrong?

    I assume it stems from a misinterpritation of the RotJ scene.

    What misintepretation?
     
  20. Errant_Venture

    Errant_Venture Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I've never read anything about them not being shields.

    I presume he means the scene where one of the "globe things" are destroyed and then right after that you've got Admiral Piett saying "Evasive action. Strengthen our foward batteries" or something along those lines since their bridge shields were then down.
     
  21. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    Right, the globes are destroyed, then the officer informs Piett that the shields are down. It's very cut-and-dry.
     
  22. Spike2002

    Spike2002 Former FF-UK RSA and Arena Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Those "globe things" on the bridge tower are sensor pods. They are not shield generators.


    Let me guess, a Technical Commentaries reader...
     
  23. Defiance

    Defiance Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    If those pods were shield generators, Imperial engineers are the dumbest lot in the galaxy. None of the other ships like Mon Cals have external shield generators. So why should ISDs? It's stupid. And what's even more stupid is that if you consider the official material, the star destroyer weakness has been around since before the Battle of Yavin and nobody bothered to fix them up. How stupid can the Imperials be?
     
  24. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 10

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    As I understand SW most all ships (most certainly Star Destroyers and their Calamarian counter-parts) have shields. They are mostly bubble shields. However, the protect primarly against energy weapons like lasers or torpedoes.

    Comparatively, a collision is just an object accelerating very quickly into the Star Destroyer, in which case it would pass through the shields and collide with the actual hull.
     
  25. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    If those pods were shield generators, Imperial engineers are the dumbest lot in the galaxy. None of the other ships like Mon Cals have external shield generators. So why should ISDs?

    Actually, all ships have external shield generators. The reason being that they generate so much power output that they interfere with the rest of the ship's systems, so they have to be placed as far from the rest of the ship as possible.
     
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