Lit Do you blame Ajunta Pall?

Is it possible the say the Ajunta Pall as the first Dark Lord and creator of the Sith Order as we know it is to blame for all the war and damage that the Sith inflict on the galaxy in the future centuries? Ridiculous that he was redeemed after everything he had done and his philosophy had done. He essentially created a society/tradition of competition, war, suffering and hatred against the Jedi that would go on forever.

Thoughts?

 

I don't blame Ajunta Pall. I blame bad writing.

 

Which writing is bad?

 

The writing that gives us centuries and centuries of Sith as bad guys no matter how little sense it makes or how derivative it is. That bad writing.

 

Thank you. It's like The Legend of Zelda.

 

I was a firm believer a decade ago that KOTOR should have been moved forward two thousand years and set firmly after the start of the New Sith Wars.

 

Are you a still a believer of such?

 

Not really, everyone makes their own choices. I don't really like blaming someone for the actions of others. Besides, even when the Sith seem to die out completely, someone creates them all over again.

His "redemption" is no more ridiculous than Vader's and was earned after thousands of years of suffering. In the end he did feel remorse and regret and finally let go, unlike so many other Sith spirits that hang around for thousands of years and never repent.

 

IMO, the games benefit sufficiently from their proximity to Exar and Uliq that they deserve to be where they are, chronologically. Makes sense as well considering the prominence of Mandalorians.

 

The way that the story developed with the Mandalorian Wars, the True Sith, and SWTOR would only work with its current placement so I am inclined to agree now.

I don't have all that much a problem with an overabundance of Sith stories, so long as they are restricted to their appropriate era, which should be 5,000 BBY - 1,000 BBY, so KOTOR/SWTOR isn't that much a problem. When it came out the Sith were much less influential on galactic history. I suspect that Mace Windu's claim in Shatterpoint of crimes against civilization not being charged against someone since the Great Sith War isn't true any longer with the Mandalorian Wars, the Jedi Civil War, Great Galactic War, the Galactic War, and the totality of New Sith Wars including the Sictis Wars and the Light and Darkness War. But the same is likely true of Luke's claim that his aerial dogfight with TIE fighters over Nkllon was his first space combat since becoming a Jedi knight. Such is the way of the EU.

 

Each and every person is responsible for his/her own actions.

 

Well the only reason why things feel same-samey is that they keep over-focusing on Force-users (or at least Jedi) and galaxy shattering events, while ignoring the small stories and regular Joes. I mean, bounty hunters have their stories, smugglers have their stories, pirates have their stories, why not focus on those for a bit? But they're (the authors and publishers) are afraid to do this, because they think it won't sell, and that's pretty much the crux of the reason why you see endless Sith.

 

It's not just that. I was referring to the constant repetition of:
1. Jedi and Republic are complacent and believe the Sith to be extinct
2. The Sith, who were defeated long ago, corrupt someone and take over
3. The Sith are betrayed by a high-up apprentice, saving the day

 

Just to be That Nerd, ( ) Legend of Zelda at least has the excuse of time travel, alternate universes, and actual reincarnation. Star Wars just has the protagonists holding the idiot ball and thinking time and again that the Sith have been destroyed for good, when a simple look at galactic history should tell them they're probably wrong. It always happens in the exact same way too.

 

Blame Ajunta Pall? I don't even remember what he did.

 

He was the leader of the Dark Jedi who discovered the Sith species.

infinite and

 

Someone needs to be blamed.

 

darklordoftech, don't mind me, just being facetious.

As always, blame Canada. Or maybe terrorists.

 

I blame jizz music rotting the minds of young people.

 

Oh. John and Jan need to make a comic series about him called "Dawn of the Sith". How does the founder of the Sith not already have a comic and/or novel?

 

While we're on the subject, I was always under the impression that Pall, XoXaan and Karness Muur were contemporaries of each other, is there any concrete indication that Ajunta is senior to the other two?

 

I've never heard that Pall was older or had been a Jedi for a longer time, but he still could be the originator of the Sith ideology and be more powerful than XoXaan and Muur.

 

Well, singling him out for blame seems a tad unfounded then.

 

I want more pre-Republic works in general. Looking squarely in your direction, Xim the Despot.

 

I assume we'll find out that most of the original sith weren't that evil (not saying some weren't entirely and I'm not saying that many would be good) and that at least a percentage of the Jedi deserved it and that the later Sith rid most of the good from the Sith.