The separatists should be in favor of keeping Padme alive since it benefits them, we all know Dooku is working for Sidious and Sidious needs her dead but the separatists don’t know that. But since Viceroy Gunray has such a grudge against Padme instead of doing what needs to be done for the greater cause he gives Dooku a out to go ahead with ordering Padmes death and the others are not at all concerned? Gunray personal vendetta should have been a red flag, he also should have seen the bigger picture. He could handle that matter latter. A lot more was at stake for his side.
Gunray doesn't care about the CIS as a movement. He is a corporate backer, not an ideal CIS and since it becomes obvious by the end of AOTC that the Trade Federation has a play in fhe CIS military, and Gunray still isn't arrested, I dont think Gunray cared if people found out the corporations were funding CIS military activities. Plus, they could spin Padme's death in their favor for propaganda. If the leader of the anti-militarism faction is assassinated, that can look like pro-militaristic factions were behind it and could incite more unrest and distrust in the Republic government as a war-mongering force.
Just because someone needs to do something does not mean they will. Everyone is flawed. Everyone makes mistakes. Even fictional characters. And Palpatine wanted the Trade Federation to become a major force with the Separatists. The latter provided a good deal of arms and technology. And the Federation and other groups/organizations like the Techno Union and the InterGalactic Banking Clan cast a shadow on the Separatist movement. Remember . . . not all of the Separatists had morally compromised reputations. I don't think Padme's life really meant much to Palpatine one way or the other. It was Nute Gunray who wanted her dead. He was willing to have the Trade Federation join the Separatists if she was dead. However . . . Palpatine was the one who suggested that the Jedi protect her. He needed the Jedi to find that Kamino dart on Zam Wassell.
Palpatine didn't want her dead at that time. She was the key to turning Anakin and needed to be alive. He never wanted her dead in Attack of the Clones. We never get confirmation Palpatine wanted her dead.
The politics of the PT are convoluted not because they are realistically complex, but because they are unrealistically complex. A lot of it isn't logical.
I concur. He wanted her alive. Once he had turned Anakin, he probably would’ve done away with her had Vader not done it for him.
If the reason Dooku killed Padme was to appease Gunray and thus gain the Trade Federation into the CIS - then I think it makes sense. The only part I found oddly convoluted were all the figures involved to assassinate Padme. So Gunray wants Padme dead - Palpatine wants the TF in the CIS so he tells Dooku to handle it - Dooku hires Jango Fett - Fett hires Zam. The several degrees of separation always felt like a convoluted way to set Obi-Wan on his investigative path...
So . . . Palpatine and Dooku should have tried to kill her? And without Jango, whom they needed as a template for the clone army, how else would Palpatine lead the Jedi to Kamino without making it obvious?
I don't think Dooku want's to kill Padme at all. Obi-wan, Padme, and Anakin are bait to draw the Jedi to Geonosis and kick off the Clone Wars. Its the same trick Vader used for luring Luke to Bespin. I sort of love how petty Nute Gunray is. Padme besting his plans on Naboo really got under Gunray's thin skin. It totally personal for him. He wants her dead. That's the price of getting him to join Dooku. The Geonsis plan is so smart because it cuts through all the red tape. Debate is the senate... Forget it. It's over. The Clone Army shows up when needed and goes into acton. The senate is completely by passed. Nute Gunray being on Geonosis puts him the war. Padme is alive... To late, he's already all in. As for Gunray's pettiness, I think the Sith are just as petty. We see Dooku get revenge on those who wronged him on the Clone Wars. And half of Palpatine's plan in the Sequel Trilogy could be petty revenge on all those who stopped him Return of the Jedi.
I don't mind that Jango was involved, but the methods to get the Jedi to Kamino were sloppy. It relied on too many coincidences. Otherwise, the idea is that Palpatine planned on Jango using the dart from Kamino to kill Zam. Which the Jedi would luckily be nearby to collect and be pushed to investigate. If the idea is that Palpatine through Dooku to Jango planned Zam's failure and killing her (thus leaving the dart) - that needed to be better conveyed. The film implied that Zam was simply killed to silence her - not to put the Jedi on the path to Kamino. Hell, all information on Kamino had been erased in the archives. If Obi-Wan didn't know Dexter - there was a distinct possibly that the trail would have gone cold and no further investigation would have occurred. Plus, the film (with its opening scene) implied that the single goal that night was to assassinate Padme. I know, I know. Palpatine, no doubt, foresaw everything using the Force and knew that A) Zam would fail (by using assassin worms instead of simply using her droid to toss a thermal detonator into her room) B) The Jedi would chase her down and actually find her in the chaos that is Coruscant C) They would disarm her but not kill her D) Drag her out into an exposed alleyway for questioning. While this is a conceit that is acceptable in the Star Wars galaxy thanks to the magical Force, it is all still a bit of a writing mess.
I think Palpatine looks into the future and can see different outcomes. Then he pushes events in the present to line up in a way that creates his desired future. Because of this he doesn't need to plan all the little coincidences and details. Palpatine doesn't need to know Obi-Wan is friends with Dexter. Or know that Jango would use a Saber Dart that Dexter could ID. Palpatine just needs to know the individuals and general circumstances required to bring about his desired future. Once the actors are together and in motion their own actions will bring about the end results Palpatine wants. To kick off the Clone Wars Palpatine starts by seeing his desired end goal in the future. Goal #1) Start the Clone Wars in a way that works best for the Sith. Goal #2) Have Anakin form an exploitable bond with Padme. To form his plan Palpatine traces those possible futures back to the present to see how they start. From there he only needs to arrange circumstances for the inciting event. The plan can be A) Use Jango Fett as the Bounty Hunter. B) Involve Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Padme on Coruscant. The rest will happen on it's own. The way Palpatine plans isn't him building a road to his desired goal. A road requires every foot being planned out precisely. Palpatine's plans are like diverting the flow of a river to his desired goal. Once the water diverts to a new path it's own momentum will carry it forward. All Palpatine needs to know is the river ends where he wants it. If things do change he can further divert the river as needed. As long as it doesn't hurt him or his plans he doesn't care what collateral damage rerouting the river causes. The river won't always go where he wants it easily. On rare occasions Palpatine may have to stick his neck out and take direct action forcing the river where he wants it to go. The best example I can think of for that is when Palpatine needed to deal with Mother Talzin on the Clone Wars. in The Clone Wars episodes "Son of Dathomire" which was published as a comic book Palpatine even talks about having to take action on his own so the future goes where he needs it. Let me know if that makes sense on how it's different than needed to plan out a detailed A) B) C) D) E) sort of plan with precise steps.
She had a target on her back, since he found out Anakin couldn't stop dreaming about her. No way he'd allow Vader a wife. Her usefulness kept her alive.
Padme being the target of the assassination goes from being the A plot to being dismissed as a D plot about halfway through the film. Oh, umm... Gunray wants her dead... blah, blah, blah. It's not even discovered by Obi-Wan through some sort of actual detective work, he just overhears Gunray say it and then the movie becomes all about Kamino and the clone army. AOTC is a mess. You know what would have wrapped everything up better... Instead of the Obi-Wan and Anakin randomly spotting Dooku and following him. Have Dooku call to Obi-Wan through the force to come and face him. Then, when the gunship arrives, Obi-Wan realizes that he just inadvertent brought Padme right to Dooku; bringing the lamb to the slaughter. Then the lightsaber fight is everyone trying to stop Dooku from killing Padme with Yoda ultimately succeeding. Instead, like I already said, Padme's attempted assassination is barely even discussed by the end of the film. The MAIN plot of the first half being wrapped up in passing is just lazy writing.
