PT Do you think "The Phantom Menace" is a rehash of "A New Hope"?

After "The Force Awakens" was released, a lot people (who loved it) defended the film from the criticism of it being too similar to A New Hope by saying that The Phantom Menace was also a rehash of A New Hope too.

But I don't think that's true.

The Phantom Menace and A New Hope do share a lot of similarities like how a young boy from a desert planet goes off on an adventure with an old Jedi and eventually blows up a military target, and that there is a lightsabre battle where the old Jedi dies. But the plots in both films are very different from each other.

The plot in The Force Awakens is very to A New Hope to the point that you somewhat could consider it a remake.

 

I've never heard anyone claim TPM was a rehash of ANH.

Sure, the ending scene with the celebration echoed that of ANH visually, especially with the cuts to various characters. But this only highlighted that it was not like ANH except at the surface level. The bad guy had actually won and he was there smiling along with the "heroes."

 

Wow! This is the most one sided poll ever

 

How is it a rehash? The plot, themes, and narrative of each film are completely different. There are parallels, of course, but a rehash? No way.

 

The Phantom Menace is many things. A rehash is not one of them.

The final sequence was more reminiscent of Return of the Jedi to me, with the conflicts split between [two] ground battles, a lightsaber duel, and a space battle. Though using the same formula isn't the same as remaking specific shots, which was probably why people have issue with The Force Awakens.

 

As others have said, TPM mirrors ANH in its narrative structure (same as the other movies of both trilogies), but the basic premise is totally different. TPM introduces a good society and a good boy, with the danger of darkness over both of them. ANH introduces an evil society and a group of fighters fighting for freedom and justice, and a boy who joins the fight.
And besides, both the opening (beginning in the middel of the battle) and ending (ground battle, space battle and duel) of the movie, as well as the theme of nature and simbiotic relationships winning over the good guys paralels ROTJ. So, there's a bookending aspect as well.

 

No.
This is one of the most ridiculous claims PT haters ever came up with.

 

at 27-0 i motion to close this one

 

No way. Lucas did a lot of new things and created a brand new perspective on the series. Deep dive swimming, podracing, Jedi leaping and duelling like never seen before, the Jedi Temple, new aliens, new technology and so it goes on.

 

By definition a rehash is:

a reuse of old ideas or material without significant change or improvement.

They are both based on The Star Wars but with significant change and improvements for both from that original source material Lucas created.

 

There are certainly deliberate similarities in structure and themes, but I don't recall even the film's harshest critics knocking it for being a straight-up rehash. The two films tell unique, though interrelated, stories.

 

No.

side note: I’m sure most people here already know this, but I recommend reading Lucas’ first draft of “The Star Wars,” or, better yet, the comic book adaptation of it that was released a while ago. Not that it’s good (it’s not) but it’s fascinating to see how different elements ended up in both ANH and TPM.

 

Not at all,
TPM tryied to explain a new and original storyline, it might have resorted to the OT when needed but it was the star wars universe after all, on the other hand TFA was clearly an attempt to replicate the OT plot, yes it has different characters, it´s not an exact replica, it was not a remake but you could draw a paralell of 80% of the plot and charaters to the OT. It´s like Coke and Pepsi, do they taste totally the same? no, would you say they were made to be esencially different drinks? no

 

Nope. I appreciate he did not remake it.

 

I agree with the general consensus. There are similarities and deliberate allusions, but the plot is its own thing despite the shared location of Tatooine. Anakin is not the same as Luke in TPM, and the Separatists are very different from the Empire despite the same man behind them. And the Republic is, needless to say, different from the Rebel Alliance.

 

No. There are similarities between TPM and ANH, but they are also very different and feel distinct.

 

No it's not. Not at all

 

The opening scene is similar in spirit to ANH but Lucas deliberately did the exact opposite. The heroes attacking instead of defending, a small ship approaching a big ship, etc.

 

As much as I enjoy TPM, I acknowledge that it has it’s faults. There have been some valid criticisms levelled at this movie, but this is not one of them. Whilst I appreciate that there are certain similarities in the story and theme, TPM was a very much it’s own movie. George always gave us something different.

 

ANH, TPM, and TFA have similar structures. I wouldn't call either TPM or TFA a rehash.

 

I’d call TFA a rehash.

 

Ok.

 

That’s really all it is.

 

Yep I got that a few years ago.if he went with his first draft Star Wars would not have gotten a sequel and at best would be a niche classic.