Dobby The House Elf Vs CGI Yoda: Who looked better?

In Harry Potter And The Chamber of secrets, there is a totally CGI character called Dobby the House Elf. He is made by ILM. Even though Yoda and Dobby are manufactured by the same people, who do you think looks more real? Everyone always goes on about how real Yoda looks and even Gollum, but no one ever mentions Dobby. In one scene, Harry Potter even grabs hold of Dobby, yet I don't remember yoda ever touching other characters in AOTC, unless you count his lightsaber clashing with Dooku's. Even so, he still does not strictly touch other actors. In that way, his animation is not really state-of-the-art and he is clearly upstaged by Dobby and Gollum. Dobby's interaction with the actors is seamless; is Yodas?

 

From a texture point of view, Yoda. He's a lot more detailed.

The interaction between Harry and Dobby is well done, but there's no scene involving Yoda to compare that against.

 

I would also say that Yoda is more detailed. I found Dobby quite annoying, and not as 'realistic' as Yoda or Gollum.

 

Yoda. And duh, like we weren't going to say that.

 

Who Framed Roger Rabbit had more human interaction than Dobby, without all the CGI. It could've been done with Yoda, but they didn't need to, so it's not like Dobby's a superior effect.

Mind you, the fact that I'd rather have Dobby trodden on by an elephant could have something to do with me preferring Yoda, too.

 

Well yeah. Looking at it from an unbiased perspective, yoda wasn't really much of an achievement in light of all the other films that do that same thing. Both LOTR and HP have CGI characters that are just as good as yoda and yet on the AOTC DVD we are constantly shown the creation of Yoda and other characters in "From puppets to pixels", as if there creation was some unique, monumental achievement.

 

It was unique and monumental. You don't like anything about these films so what difference does it make anyway?

 

Looking at it from an unbiased perspective, yoda wasn't really much of an achievement...

So that's your attempt at an unbiased perspective, is it?

 

Another negative topic, with opinions that have to attack the acomplishments of the crew of Episode II? Give it up Yodaschum, you're going to run out of ideas soon until Episode III. To answer your question though, I haven't seen the second Harry Potter, but from what I've seen and heard on the television, Yoda is better in my opinion.

 

Yoda.
Have you seen Harry Potter: CoS? Dobby looks far more "faux" than Yoda or Gollum. People compare Yoda and Gollum and leave out Dobby for that very reason (he's clearly the lesser of the three). While Dobby's interaction with Harry is notable, he just is not as detailed and realistic in movement or texture than Yoda.

 

I think if ILM wanted someone to grab Yoda and make it look good, they could. I mean, they did a fine enough job with the CG Ewan being hugged by Dexter.

I haven't seen HP so I won't offer my opinion, but I don't hear much praise for Dobby. Not when we have Yoda and Gollum.


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Who's gonna have the nerve to grab Yoda?

 

Well yeah. Looking at it from an unbiased perspective, Yoda wasn't really much of an achievement in light of all the other films that do that same thing. Both LOTR and HP have CGI characters that are just as good as Yoda and yet on the AOTC DVD we are constantly shown the creation of Yoda and other characters in "From puppets to pixels", as if there creation was some unique, monumental achievement.

Considering CG Yoda was worked on long before Gollum for TTT or Dobby or COS were, I think that's a considerable achievement of it's time. Before AOTC, there had not been a CG character as detailed as Yoda. And remember, things like the AOTC DVD commentary was done during the same time AOTC was released back in May/June of 2002, not when the DVD came out, long before COS and TTT were even released, or finished.

 

I thought both Yoda and Dobby were well done, and IMHO their animated performances were much better than TPM's Jar Jar. So kudos to ILM for raising the bar. But I thought Gollum was better than either. So kudos to Weta for raising the bar even further.

 

Gollum had vastly more range of motion than Yoda, but that's the nature of the character; we've never seen Yoda move around much. I'd rate them as equal, and I've never seen the HP movies, so I can't rate Dobby.

 

Also, we have to remember, ILM had to hold back on their animation some-what so that the digital version of Yoda wouldn't be too far advanced from the puppet version. If we recall in the "Puppets to Pixels" documentary, there were various times in which GL expressed how he wanted digital Yoda to be as close to the puppet version as possible, so that they could get more emotion out of Yoda and have the Yoda duel be believable, but also so that it wouldn't seem like such an amazing leap into the digital version from the puppet version.

 

I thought they both looked excellent!!! Loved these characters. Very similar, very cool!

 

Dobby looked way better then CGI yoda, that thing was just disgracefully bad. Why they didn't use the puppet I'll never know.

 

Because the puppet was limited as to what it could do.

The CG Yoda looked fine.

I haven't seen the Harry Potter movies, so I have no idea who this Dobby guy is.

 

He's a little elf/sprite/goblin thing, that tries to help Harry.

He's also about as irritating as sandpaper shoved down your trousers.

EDIT: IMO. No offense, gents

 

From the shots I've seen of Dobby, I'd really have to go for Yoda. Dobby is not as detailed and the animation, from what I've seen, is horrible. I'll wait for HP to come out on HBO, then I can offer my full opinion. But Yoda had a lot of very subtle animation that greatly helped his character.

In Gollum vs. Yoda: Gollum looks more human, so we therefore find him more realistic. Plus, Gollum fit in with the environments of TTT better. I think they're both equally fantastic. I would find Yoda better than Gollum, because Gollum overacts, but that's part of his character. Gollum's more subtle moments are very well done.

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I think the rubber poop monster from Dogma looked better but Yoda could take him out any day so I'll have to go with Yoda...never seen any of the Harry Potter movies so I have no idea who Dobby is.

 

"In that way, his animation is not really state-of-the-art and he is clearly upstaged by Dobby and Gollum. Dobby's interaction with the actors is seamless; is Yodas?"

Well the script didn't call for Yoda to touch anyone.

However, other AotC CGI characters did interact with the human characters. Most notably the Geonosians and Dexter Jettster.

ILM can definitely do it when asked...they just weren't in the case of Yoda.

 

Ah but with Dexter it was CG to CG because when Obi hugged him ILM made his cloak and hands CG to interact with him. In LOTR they have proper actors interacting with a real actor then replaced with CG to get it looking real, which IMO dose look more realistic.