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Does Count Dooku = Osama Bin Laden?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by The Gatherer, Aug 12, 2004.

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  1. The Gatherer

    The Gatherer Jedi Youngling star 6

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    I think that very intriguing similarites can be made between Count Dooku and Osama Bin Laden.

    Both are considered terrorists by their opponents.

    Both have inherited vast wealth, which they have used to forward their own ideals, political agenda and militaristic goals.

    Both have been trained as warriors (Dooku with the Jedi, Osama Bin Laden with the mujihadeen / CIA).

    Both have beards! ;)

    What do you think?!
     
  2. SlackJawedJedi

    SlackJawedJedi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I dunno... as far as I can see, Osama doesn't have an army of robots at his disposal.
    (Though he does a good job of 'programming' his followers... eh? Eh?)
     
  3. alpha_red

    alpha_red Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Yes, Dooku is the same as Osama.

    And Saddam Hussein is really dead and building chemical weapons in heaven with Mormons.
     
  4. chiss_man

    chiss_man Jedi Master star 6

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    That comparison would imply that there is someone else pulling Osama's strings, when as far as we know he's the main guy. This would be great fodder for conspiracy theorists though, I do admit.
     
  5. The Gatherer

    The Gatherer Jedi Youngling star 6

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    Isn't the Carlyle Group and the Global Elite pulling Osama's strings, funding both sides on the war on terror so in the end, they profit nonetheless?! ;)
     
  6. royalguard96

    royalguard96 Jedi Knight star 5

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    [Threepio] Here we go again [/Threepio]

    The only similarities I see are that they both stir up trouble with no coherent goal in mind for it all.
     
  7. SlackJawedJedi

    SlackJawedJedi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Osama has a goal in mind. Americans (and their allies)
    can keep dying until their grip over the worlds economies (and thus, the world) is broken, and everyone else gets to dance around and say: "Huzzah! No we can live our own lives, with our own monies, and never have to worry about being screwed over by rhetoritc spouting money toting madmen again!".

    I didn't say it was a very sensible goal..



    Seriously, I don't think there's supposed to be any real world parellels. And Dooku fights a conventional war, not a guerilla war.
     
  8. Wedge 88

    Wedge 88 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Osama is the black sheep in his family

    Dooku is . . . wait, nevermind. He is charismatic and sane.

    You can draw a connection between any terrorist group and the Seperatists, or the Rebel Alliance. It's not that hard.
     
  9. Knight1192

    Knight1192 Jedi Knight star 6

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    I don't think so. Osama was known of prior to 9/11, but it seems like nobody really thought to much of him beyond being a fairly small terrorist.

    I'm not saying that things he did prior to that time were unimportant or no less frightening. But I don't see the things he did prior to 9/11 being things that could have turned him into a kind of boogeyman. The importance of finding him just doesn't seem to have been there back then. It was like most of the nations that actually knew he exsisted and wanted to catch him only wanted to devote 2-6% of their resources to find him and deal with him.

    But then 9/11 occurs and suddenly it seemed like nearly half the nations of the world were so outraged that they wanted to devote 50-75% of their resources to finding him. Suddenly everyone was afraid of Osama, he was the boogeyman just waiting for us to let down our gaurd so he could strike again. And even when we felt we could start getting our lives back, just mentioning he had released a new tape suddenly had us jumping at our own shadows again.

    What I'm trying to say is that Count Dooku was created at a time when Osama was still someone we didn't think about too much.
     
  10. SlackJawedJedi

    SlackJawedJedi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Once again, the Seppies are no mere terrorist group. They have a large standing army and fleet. They are attempting to win their war( or in Dooku's case, not) through conquest, not subversion. They use 'terror' tactics (assassination, killing large amounts of civillians on order to make a point, propaganda etc.) but are less worried about scaring people into doing what they want, as they can just move in an impose their laws anyway.

    Dooku is . . . wait, nevermind. He is charismatic and sane.

    Are you saying Osama doesn't have charisma? He's no Gandhi or Hitler, perhaps, but he has convinced people to die for his goals. He doesn't just get by on looks and money.
     
  11. Wedge 88

    Wedge 88 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    He is shunned by most of society, including his own in Saudi Arabia. His family basically thought of him as a failure and treated him more like an outcast than an asset. That didn't stop him from using their wealth. And yes, he does have an image and followers.

    But look at Dooku. He's played by Christopher freakin' Lee. You don't get more charismatic than that.
     
  12. SlackJawedJedi

    SlackJawedJedi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Point, and counter-point. Bravo!

    Also, damn straight. Christopher Lee is the Shiznits. I'd follow him to hell and back, I would!
     
  13. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    He's no Gandhi or Hitler

    Now there's a phrase you don't see much.
     
  14. flowerbee

    flowerbee Jedi Knight star 5

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    They::::::both have grey hair and beards?
     
  15. Pelranius

    Pelranius Jedi Master star 5

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    They're both very tall, but I don't think Dooku has kidney problems or anything. And Osama sincerely seems to want his side to win.
     
  16. FTeik

    FTeik Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    If Bin Laden is Dooku, doesn´t Bush (or Cheney) have to be Palpatine?

    Older, nice looking guys, who increase military spending and cut civil rights to fight the "war on terrorism", support the big companies and don´t care for the small citicen. Not to forget, that they used the "war on terrorism" as excuse to invade other countries.
     
  17. Brett_Bass

    Brett_Bass Jedi Padawan star 4

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    If we're drawing parallels between fictionaly movie characters and real-life politicians...

    Senator John Kerry is a dead ringer for Sergeant Shaw from The Manchurian Candidate. Neither are real war heros. Both betrayed their respective comrades-in-arms (although to be fair, Sergeant Shaw was brainwashed at the time). We never actually hear much about either's actual platform (aside from 'vote for me, I'm so not George Bush!' from Senator Kerry). And the coup-de-grace?

    Neither one of them is, you guessed it...

    Frank Stallone.
     
  18. Pelranius

    Pelranius Jedi Master star 5

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    Well, Bass, I'd have to disagree and say Kerry IS a real war hero.

    Anyways, Palpatine doesn't have any real military service to speak of, like Dubya. The role Kinman Doriana/Sate Pestage resembles that of Dick Cheney very much (though it could be argued that Dick Cheney = Vader) And of course, there's the Tarkin/Rumsfeld connection.
     
  19. Jort

    Jort Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Did the seps kill that many civilians?
     
  20. SlackJawedJedi

    SlackJawedJedi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I'm going to take a flying shot in the dark and say yes, the seppis have probably killed a few more civies then the measly few thousand that Osama and friends have managed (military sci-fi sagas favouring large body-counts, and all).
     
  21. sidious618

    sidious618 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Nahhhhh. I don't see it.
     
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