Does Vader's suit limit his mobility?

I think it doesn't because why would the emporer put him in a limiting suit when he had a bunch of jedi to kill (why would he put him in a limiting suit anyway?)

But of coarse there are other sides of the argument. I just wanted to make an official thread for this, as this usually turns up in threads about Vader's pure power.

 

The suit did limit his mobililty. In the OT you do not see him make such large energetic moves as he does in the PT without his Darth Vader suit on. However without the suit, he would die.

 

PrinceHector is right. He needs the suit to and mask to breathe and he has those robotic limbs which wouldn't make him very graceful.

 

No.

And here's why....physical limitations are meaningless when harnessing the power of the force. See Master Yoda.

 

He could't get his arms in fron of his sholders. But it was his only way to live.

 

He didn't need to have a huge suit installed to help him breath. I bet they could have put in just an iron lung and a piece at his mouth to breath, if the suit limited his mobility. Or if the suit didn't limit his mobility they could put it on him to make him look scary.

 

You know, I'd be more inclined to think that his total lack of limbs is what limits his mobility... but maybe that's just me.

 

Uh, look at General Grevous.

 

He does seem far less mobile in the OT than he was suitless in the PT, but it didn't make much of a difference by that point.

 

Vader's suit had a greater effect on his motility. Much too warm.

 

His mobility is restricted although it's interesting to see Anakin's robotic right arm in ROTS move extremley quick and that is the arm that wasn't replaced. It may be due to stamina now with the rest of the limb replacements, but I can't help but think if the films were made now it would show Vader moving quicker. Who would of thought before AOTC that Yoda (who walks so slow and fragile) could move around so quick, It doesn't take anything away from the OT, just interesting to see the difference in duels between the OT and PT.

 

But both the RotS novel and GL said that Anakin's power also decreased quite a bit in the suit. Still enough to beat the remaining Jedi, but not nearly the full potential of pre-burning Anakin.

and yeah, it did limit his mobility.

 

I would think that Vader's suit limits him in his movements. Although he has clearly gotten used to his new body in OT, he'll never be as graceful as he was in PT. I'm having difficulties in picturing Vader jumping and doing somersaults.

 

"and yeah, it did limit his mobility."

Again. please tell me why the emporer would put him in a scary suit if it would limit his mobility. The suit wasn't neccesary, obviously. Just look at grevous, he is VERY mobile, and is cyborg. So I definately think that if the suit was a problem emporer would have taken it off, especially when vader had to kill a bunch of jedi.

-my 2 cents

 

I can imagine a lot, luv. Especially after seeing the video game of ROTS.
But what I really wanted to say is that the suit (plus gorgeous helmet) keep Vader alive, but that his lack of grace comes from his artificial limps plus severe skin injuries.

 

I don't think it does.
I can't see why it would, and there's no evidence that it does.
True, he doesn't flip around like a hyperactive fool like the PT jedi do, but then again, why would he? What in the OT would possibly require him to do that?

 

Right, there is also no need for Vader to jump up and down like somebody who preforms a jig or a reel.

 

The Emperor probably didn't have a massive choice at the time because of technology. Look at Anakin's hand when compared to Luke's. Vader probably upgraded it later on?

The suit looks intimidating and cool, worthy of a sith. Thats probably why Palpatine chose it. I don't think the suit restricted Vader to that degree it was his injuries that resulted in him being much heavier, bulker etc needing the mechanical parts. He probably could do somersalts, he jumps of the stairs in ESB with ease.

As regards to greivous he is more machine apart from some organs etc, there was a previous debate about this and it was mentioned that Vader is slower as the robotic parts are attached to the human body instead of a mostly independant cyborg such as greivous, which in turn supposedly uses more stamina.

 

I doubt it. As said before, even though Grevious is a cyborg, he isn't limited in any way. But Grevious isn't a force user and therefore is a different case. However, I think its a combination of his injuries at the end of ROTS and simply not needing to jump about and do flips off walls and stuff like that. The Emperor wouldn't of put him in something that would of made him less effective because he liked the look of the suit or something.
But, as stated earlier, I can't help but to think that Vader might not be much more active if these movies were made today.

 

"The suit looks intimidating and cool, worthy of a sith. Thats probably why Palpatine chose it."

Exactly. The suit was to make Vader look scary, so looking scary meant less mobilithy I don't think the emporer would use it.

I don't think the suit restricted Vader to that degree it was his injuries that resulted in him being much heavier, bulker etc needing the mechanical parts. He probably could do somersalts, he jumps of the stairs in ESB with ease.

Well, again, Luke wasn't weighed down when he lost an arm.

"As regards to greivous he is more machine apart from some organs etc, there was a previous debate about this and it was mentioned that Vader is slower as the robotic parts are attached to the human body instead of a mostly independant cyborg such as greivous, which in turn supposedly uses more stamina."

I don't know if it takes more energy to use a mechanical hand, sorry if I keep going back to this but when Anakin loses his first arm he can use it just asd fast as his other hand (you can see this in the duel with Dooku.)

"The Emperor wouldn't of put him in something that would of made him less effective because he liked the look of the suit or something."

Right.

 

The stunt man in the suit during ANH had mobility problems which is why they used a simple dueling form(Kendo). Otherwise Vader seems to move quite well and graceful in every scene he's in and doesn't seem the least bit slow or clumsy.

 

True, he doesn't flip around like a hyperactive fool like the PT jedi do, but then again, why would he?

I´m glad Vader doesn´t flip around. That would certainly make him look ridiculous, just like Dooku.

 

Vader didn't meet his full potential, but it wasn't because of the suit...it was because of the horrific injuries he suffered on Mustafar. Nevertheless he was still 80% as powerful as the Emperor (pretty damned powerful), so the notion that his mobility was limited doesn't hold water. This is especially true considering that physical limitations are meaningless when harnessing the force. Yoda could barely walk without a cane. He was obviously less mobile than Vader, yet while harnessing the force he moved like an acrobat.

Also, if the suit limited Vader's mobility...why did he become progressively more mobile throughout the trilogy?

I tend to think that Vader had matured since the prequels and was more in control. To use an analogy...his attacks were more careful and precise like a boxer or a fencer, rather than the emotional, more intense (yet more careless and less precise) style of a streetfighter.

 

The Emperor felt that Darth Vader was no longer a worthy Sith. He was more machine now than man, with all of his limbs artificial due to Count Dooku and Obi-Wan. It?s the same way the Emperor and Count Dooku didn?t think with General Grievous, even though he could use a lightsaber, could ever be a true Sith. He was machine, so the Force did not fully flow with him. A droid with a lightsaber, and nothing else. Exactly what Vader had become, for the most part. The Force cannot fully flow through machine, which also counts for how slowly Vader fights in the old movies. So yes, Vader's suit does limit his mobility.