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  1. Indy3

    Indy3 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Anyone have this game?

    Comments?
     
  2. Sarg_Kulo

    Sarg_Kulo Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm hoping to get it soon.
    I love the Zelda tune on it. :D
     
  3. Zenek

    Zenek Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I HATE DONKEY KONGA

    Donkey Kong Country MADE me the active gamer 10 years ago, the DK series under Rareware's supervision, single handedly saved the SNES, and started the use of 3-D graphics to be used in video games. Rare made ALOT of excellent games for the beforementioned SNES, N64, Game Boy systems, and one for the Game Cube. (And is still developing games for the Game Boy Advance and X-BOX) This has given Nintendo way too much recognition, RARE was the biggest contribution to the big N. What Miamoto has done to the series makes me sick to my stomach, and had made me disown the next nintendo system for Microsoft's system. N's foolish sale of Rare is the other reason for this, but that's annother story...Have you SEEN the thing?! Konga KILLED the decade of story building Rare has done, and made the DK series little more that a lame party-game to run alongside Mario Party 27. AND I'd leave Konga alone IF it weren't for the upcoming demon from the rock from where Virtural Boy crawled out from...Jungle Beat. This is the one that WILL kill the series completely, All of my all time favorite characters were thrown into Limbo after Rare went to Microsoft, and N decided to not use any of the characters, making good-old Donkey Kong Island into Alice in Wonder Land/Tamagotci mutant land/random colorful irrelevant polygon land.
    (Lord knows how much I miss Kremlings!)

    I IMPLORE YOU! PLEASE don't consider purchaceing this bane to the Donkey Kong series- If Konga and it's evil twin JB sell well, well we may just get more of this, for a lack of a better word, CRAP. If you STILL are intreagued by its carpral tunnel inducing "fun?", I suggest you RENT IT FIRST!

    Thanks for posting your question on the Forums so I can get my message out!

    Gamers like YOU can still save DK!

    -Zenek
     
  4. Sarg_Kulo

    Sarg_Kulo Jedi Master star 4

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    That's juts your opinion.
    I love this game, I don't own it yet but I'm getting it for christmas.
     
  5. Zenek

    Zenek Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Well, that's still "juts" YOUR liking, isn't it? :D

    I tried to spare your 1st post on this topic, BUT....

    The whole point of my rantings was to keep DK's world unique! If you would rather banging on the bongos like a chimpanzee, instead of an evil kremling's face, be my guest. :(

    Anyhoo, I remember saying this shortly after Super Mario Sunshine came out:

    "They gave Luigi a vacumn cleaner, and Mario a Super Soaker....If they give Donkey Kong a Dust Buster*, I quit!"

    I'm all for a variety in my games, (Jungle levels, Temple levels, Minecart levels, etc), but clapping for coins to Willie Nelson/Zelda Theme/Crap from the 80's?

    The point is, fans bought a DK game for, guess what? DONKEY KONG!!!

    -Zenek

    *I'd gladly substitute Bongos for Dust Buster, now that I KNOW my deepest fears have come to reality...
     
  6. Super_Secret_Mario

    Super_Secret_Mario Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Didn't you like the DKC cameos during the songs (like the Banna Birds from DKC3)?
     
  7. The2ndRest-in-Peace

    The2ndRest-in-Peace Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I'm curious about giving this one a try, all the reviews seem to agree it's one of the most fun party games out there.

    >>single handedly saved the SNES<<

    DKC was a big title and did influence a few titles in it's wake, granted, but the SNES hardly needed saving,let alone single handedly by DKC.
     
  8. Zenek

    Zenek Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Oh, my! I'm SO glad some one knows what a Banana Bird is other than me! Kudos! :D (finally I can use DKC terms!)

    OK, here's my only problem with the very few characters who weren't tossed into the void: they weren't translated very well from the SNES, and you know it! Well, let's see: how many frames did our old fruit-phesants have? two, three MAYBE? The characters I DID notice in game were DK, Diddy, Cranky, Rambi, Ellie (the elephant!), and I THINK I saw a Klap Trap.

    Sounds good, eh? Here's the run down:
    DK- See posts above, nuff said.
    Diddy- AKA player 2! I could simply replace the word Donkey, and you'd have the same idea...(He was SO young!) :(
    Cranky- Gez, the WHOLE opening movie?! Wow! They out did themselves!!! (sarcastic)
    Rambi- My old favorite animal buddy- Who looks like he was cross bred with a Hutt and fed Twinkies! That picture truly made me want to smash that mocking game back to Japan!!!
    Ellie- Nice to see her again, but three frames of movement. *SIGH*
    Klap Trap- I've seen them.......NOT MOVE! The only ^$@# Kremling I SEE and it DOESN'T MOVE!!!!!
    Banana Birds- Hopping, pecking and...more hopping. Still glad to see them again!

    True, Konga DID remember few characters from the old DKC series, BUT like a high-school reunion, nice to see them after all those years, but they aren't what they used to be...

    You've GOT to admit, they should've atleast TRIED eh?!

    -Zenek
     
  9. Super_Secret_Mario

    Super_Secret_Mario Jedi Youngling star 1

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    There's a few more cameos in the mini-games. K Rool in the mini-game where you have to hit him & then there's the vine climbing mini-game where you have to avoid Klaptraps & Zingers.

    BTW, did you noticed that in the intro DK didn't know know what bongos were despite using them in DK64?
     
  10. The2ndRest-in-Peace

    The2ndRest-in-Peace Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Obviously, Donkey Konga is set chronologically before DK64 ;)
     
  11. Zenek

    Zenek Jedi Youngling star 2

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    OK, first of all, sorry I didn't address the fellow with the purple terminator/Vong icon, must've posted at the same time! Whoops! ;p

    Let's see: Reviews...I also hate reviews!
    Reviews come from a person's experience with a game, eh? Now, most people have COMPLETELY different tastes in games, right? MOST reviews come from from people who shouldn't really review them. For example, the local paper reviews movies, and the critic wrote how terrible Attack of the Clones was, and also said how great the 3rd Matrix movie was! I couldn't disagree more! Just remember, If something's popular, you won't always like it. And that Video Games are Art, not Science, reviews don't really matter.

    Well, at least you mention that the DKC Triology was a HUGE booster to the secess to the SNES! I'd say a few others that helped alot were Killer Instinct, Super Mario RPG, Kirby, Earth Bound..... (OK, Earth Bound is MY preference :D )

    Well, as for my all-time favorite villian, now that ya mention it, I DO remember the 2D screen shot of the "Wack A Rool" game, Please tell me: was he as mauled as badly as the others?! And I never saw my old buddies, the Zingers...I'll have to find a screen shot or something!

    Finally, I'd have to give the whole DK's confused/never used bongos until DK64 to be an accident. Hey, if you can find proof that WAS intentional, OR that it actually happened chronogically BEFORE DK64, please enlighten me. BUT if you two still try to put it into DK's time line, why in the heck are the Banana birds even there?! They were rescued, alongside their Queen, and even THEN, were in the far nothestern Kremesphere, FAR away from the DK isles. There was no good reason to bring the funny-looking buggers back, unless they were into more trouble, and had to be driven away from their paradise. That's why Rare created the Banana Faries to replace the Birds for DK64. (You know this stuff when you've been a Rareware fan for 10 years!)

    Well, I'd have to say, Kudos to Super_Secret_Mario for clearly knowing his stuff! :D Bravo!

    Until the next user's post,

    -Zenek

     
  12. Kartanym

    Kartanym Jedi Knight star 6

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    ok, let's see here. I'm not a fan of music based titles, period. All those dancing titles i see at the arcades (what's left of them anyway) annoy me to death. I'm not saying, however, that the games don't have a place in the market, as it is obvious there are those who enjoy dancing around on four arrows, but as has already been pointed out, we all have our seperate opinions, and this is mine.

    Now, to the reason for this thread, Donkey Konga. Original ... maybe, but I have to agree to some degree with Zenek here. Nintendo are hopping on the 'trend' bandwagon, which will make them some decent cash no doubt, but at the same time they are missing out on an opportunity to continue a franchise that has been brought back to life. Although DKC didn't save the SNES, it did bring something original and entertaining to the platform genre, that until then was falling behind the upcoming 3D genre as seen on the Playstation.

    Today 3D platforms are the norm, with each year bringing another handful of titles. Thankfully, there are those that see the potential that still rests on the good old 2D style (Viewtful Joe, anyone). Meanwhile, the Game Boy Advance has allowed developers to re-release and create new titles within the 'old' form, some good, others not so.

    Zenek, I'll point out that DKC was re-released recently on the GBA, so Nintendo hasn't forgotten the franchise. What I will say is they are wasting an opportunity to build upon it. IGN had a report recently on the lack of original titles coming out of the Nintendo stable, who instead are rehashing their franchise characters with sub-par sequels and 'party games'. It's a sad state of affairs for the once Big N, but I do hope that in the not too distant future they will return to the good old days of original and entertaining titles. Maybe the Nintendo DS will provide some of that, who knows. And Donkey Kong may be a part of that.

    As for Rare, while the move to Microsoft was a hard one to see for long time fans of their work, I would like to point out that so far it hasn't been a good one. Only one title has been released, the so-so Grabbed by the Ghoulies, Conker is simply an updated version of an old N64 title, and Kameo has been delayed, with no sight of Perfect Dark 2. Not to mention the average Starfox Adventures, their last Nintendo outing. Rare has lost their charm in recent years, so I will go against the grain and say the move wasn't a bad one by Nintendo as first thought.
     
  13. Indy3

    Indy3 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Guess what?

    They are making Donkey Konga 2 its coming out Quarter 2 of 2005

    Also here is a trailer from Donkey Konga 1

    http://www.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_donkeykonga_jp.html
     
  14. SkyeLightrider

    SkyeLightrider Jedi Knight star 6

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    Ah yes... Rare leaving Nintendo...

    Actually it wasn't really Rare leaving Nintendo, it was the greedy Gatescorp. (or Microsoft if you will) that flat bought it out. Microsoft's strategy is to do what Nintendo did back in the NES days - make everyone work exclusively for them.

    Considering the limited number of really good, only on the X-Box games (which is practically none, because Microsoft ports all their good stuff to PC anyways), this isn't a bad strategy for X-Box... plus the whole "only the X-Box makes you cool" mentality the system managed to spread through the market.

    Now for Donkey Konga. I'll admit, I'm not a fan of rhythm games. I have a friend who lives a few doors down who's nickname is "Bemani" because he owns everything that company released to the US. Bemani made Dance Dance Revolution and Beatmania series, FYI. He even spent $300 on a dance pad that is guaranteed to not break - except that it's about 50 pounds, an inch thick, and solid. Go figure though, he's the best I've seen at those dance games, and he enjoys them.

    Anyway, Donkey Konga. Yeah it looks dumb (I haven't had the experience of playing it, so don't ask about gameplay) but go figure. As for Nintendo just rehashing their characters over and over, think about this: Nintendo actually HAS enough characters to do this!

    What other company has the capability to make a fighting game using 25 characters from 12 series that the compnay owns ALL OF THEM? Microsoft can't. Sony can't.
     
  15. Kartanym

    Kartanym Jedi Knight star 6

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    I agree with that, but there's a problem that exists with this very same advantage for Nintendo. Having so many characters does bring with it the value of creating many a game featuring Mario, etc. plastered all over the box to ensure some form of success (as Donkey Konga here proves), but the disadvantages are clear. By having to resort to such games, Mario Tennis/Golf/Party, etc., Nintendo have lost the very thing they strived to do back in the NES/SNES days ... original and entertaining titles. Gone are the days where every Mario title was a huge event, since now there are so many Mario games of some form released each year, most of them sub-par.

    The other disavantage, and this is the killer, is the reliance on said characters. As sales show, despite having such a vast range of characters on show, the Gamecube has failed compared to the rivals. Why? Again, it comes back to the 'original' factor. The Nintendo 64 was big in its day thanks to that very same factor (Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Goldeneye, nearly every other Nintendo title released during that era). The Gamecube, apart from Pikmin and Metroid Prime, has essentially been an N64 sequel market (the only true exception being The Wind Waker).

    Anyway, this is getting beyond the point of this thread. Donkey Konga has its moments, but I doubt I'll ever play it.
     
  16. SkyeLightrider

    SkyeLightrider Jedi Knight star 6

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    the Gamecube has failed compared to the rivals.

    Once again the gaming community is limited to about 120 miles outside the US shores I see.

    Granted, the GCN is not the bestseller Nintendo wanted it to be in the US, but here's a fact for every "Nintendo sucks" person.

    Nintendo kicks the other system's @$$ globally Only in the US does the GCN not do well (again because of the "only the xbox is cool" mentality) but if you take into account the global market, Nintendo is far beating both Sony and Microsoft COMBINED.

    as for new and original titles Kartanym, if you like RPG's, hive Tales of Symphonia a try. Yes there are other "Tales of" games, but each is completely unique, and it's only on the wonderbox known as the Nintendo Gamecube.
     
  17. Kartanym

    Kartanym Jedi Knight star 6

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    I think you should check your facts before hand, Skye, old buddy :)

    The Gamecube is struggling in far more places then just the US. The user base of PS2's and Xbox consoles far outnumber Gamecubes in many of the major countries. In fact, the only country where a Gamecube doesn't come last is in Japan, thanks largely to a number of Japan only releases and the fact that the Xbox hasn't done as well as Microsoft were originally hoping.

    Here in Australia, the little cube is almost forgotten. It's rare to find it advertised on TV or radio. Some stores don't sell the Gamecube at all (most Harvey Norman stores for example) while PS2 and Xbox games line the walls.

    The only reason you may believe Nintendo is, as you put it, kicking @$$, is because of the GBA, not the cube. Nintendo's handheld has a larger market share then a PS2 in some areas, including Japan. This is mainly due to the lack of competition. All that, however, will soon change, and it will be interesting to see how the Nintendo DS will stack up against Sony's PSP (which I believe is just an overrated PS2 clone, but that's just me and I won't say anything else until I get handson experience).

    It's a sad state of affairs, but I for one am supporting the cube, and I will look forward greatly to Metroid Prime: Echoes and Paper Mario upon release, along with the Nintendo DS.

     
  18. Sarg_Kulo

    Sarg_Kulo Jedi Master star 4

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    Zenek

    You are just imature, what do you mean 'spare my first post', what has sparing got to do with anything???
    If your not willing to except others opinons then * off.


    'Juts'

    notice I didn't quote any of your spelling mistakes.

    Congratulations, you've made yourself an enemy, and if you continue how you are now I'm sure you'll make more.
     
  19. Project_Starscream

    Project_Starscream Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    "Gone are the days where every Mario title was a huge event, since now there are so many Mario games of some form released each year, most of them sub-par."

    Those days aren't gone considering that not every Mario game is a main Mario game. Here are the main Mario games:

    Super Mario Bros. (1985)
    Super Mario Bros. 2 (1988)
    Super Mario Bros. 3 (1990)
    Super Mario World (1991)
    Super Mario 64 (1996)
    Super Mario Sunshine (2002)
    Super Mario 128 (not released yet)

    As for the last one, we haven't seen SM128 at any E3 yet because according to Nintendo they are afraid that other companies will steal the new original ideas in it. It's possible that with the way it keeps getting delayed, it will end up being a launch title for the Revolution.
     
  20. Soontir-Fel

    Soontir-Fel Force Ghost star 5

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    All of you STOP IT!!!
    If you want to make rants about how the Gamecube is failing or succeding make different threads about it. If you want to say how Nintendo is butchering a classic series, take it to another tread. This is supposed to be for Donky Konga.
    Yes the game is gimicky and you look stupid playing it. But damnit it is fun. I feel retarded playing it but I love every second. And I'm really looking forward to Jungle Beat. A platformer that involves Bongos? Hells yeh.
     
  21. Indy3

    Indy3 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Watch the trailer

    http://www.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_donkeykonga_jp.html
     
  22. Zenek

    Zenek Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Woah! I knew if I went to bed, this one would pile up on me! :D

    Let's see: I'll address Kartaym 1st...
    You've got many great points, too! Let me point out to ya that when DKC was re-releaced by Nintendo/Rare little over a year age's June, I was 1st in line to pick it up! :) LOVED IT! The game was Rare's "special edition" of DKC! Although they pushed the SNES SO much, there was STILL alot they would've liked to have had in the 1st try, but technology restraints, you know...For example, DKC2 was going to start like you open a treasure cheast, and it's all bright and glittery and pretty, and it went to the classic start-up screen we know and love! *CUT* (Limited cartrage space...) And yeah...Nintendo does better here...not good there....I'm going to TRY and avoid thet conversation, for now! :)

    You dissin' recent Rare, ya Foo'?! :D (sorry)
    1. SFA...Hooboy! WELL....It was SUPPOSED to be an N64 game called Dinosaur Planet, big N was planning the trade off, Miamoto/The Mario Guy, went to Rare, and had all characters turned into Star Fox characters...killed the story, but it was still fun to play, (alot was cut to get it out the door)
    2. GBTG! Did ya PLAY it?! Man, that is my Favorite X-BOX game yet! There is little more fun than kicking a Ninja Imp out a window, or throwing toliet paper at the Grim Reaper!
    3. Kameo...They delayed it again....(there goes MY January...) :(
    4. Conker: live&reloaded Again, this is Rare's special edition, but with Conker. If you count the Future wars, other X-BOX live stuff, and the revamped BFD, It's Conker 1.5! I can't wait!
    5. Perfect Dark 2, Killer Instinct 3, Banjo-Threeie, no mention of them either, in due time my friend, in due time! :D
    6. Other than DKC, ya forgot the GBA team's hard work! Sabrewulf, Banjo-Kazooie Grunty's Revenge, and this month: DKC2 AND It's Mr. Pants! I can't wait!

    *WHEW!* Ok Syke's turn:
    Many good points too, Konga's goofy, etc, :D I think Big M could make a smash Bros.ish game using Rare, Bungie, Artoon, Just add Monsters, Digital Anvil, Beep Industries, etc. They are getting up there in Character, but hey, they need to get POPULAR first! Ghoulies was cool!!!

    Indy3, Hmmm...Good find, but It's not Konga 2, that's the old Japanese video for the old Konga, What nasty thing we're getting early next year is Jungle Beat...Look at the screenshots and I DARE a DKC fan not to cringe watching Dk ride a Yak down the side of mountain, chasing a snowball, BEING chased by a fish-gecko-dragon...I DARE YOU!!!

    And finally, to Sarg_Kulo!

    Now, I ment that I avoided using your statement of being interested in a DK game for a Zelda tune was part of the problem, and I was going to ignore your opinion. I accept what I wish, Sarg, I was Juts making a joke! I thought it was funny, because of the short post's most obvious spelling error. Sorry if that bugged ya, but JUTS GET OVER IT!!!

    In short, GBA's cool, Konga's goofy, Grabbed by the Ghoulies was fun, and I've made my 1st enemy! (What a morning!)

    Until I check here again,

    -Zenek

     
  23. Sarg_Kulo

    Sarg_Kulo Jedi Master star 4

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    I would get over it Zenek, but you spelled my name wrong.
    It's sar*G*, pronouced like spinache in punjab.
    Not Sar*Q* pronouced god knows how.
    O and *just* so you don't make another mistake it's KULO not KOLU, LUKO, KOUL or any other combinations.

    Damn it, I can' insult you can I, cause I would have so many things I would say to you......

     
  24. Errant_Venture

    Errant_Venture Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Please stick to the original topic and there is no need to insult anyone.
     
  25. Soontir-Fel

    Soontir-Fel Force Ghost star 5

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    " I would get over it Zenek, but you spelled my name wrong.
    It's sar*G*, pronouced like spinache in punjab.
    Not Sar*Q* pronouced god knows how.
    O and *just* so you don't make another mistake it's KULO not KOLU, LUKO, KOUL or any other combinations.

    Damn it, I can' insult you can I, cause I would have so many things I would say to you...... "

    You know Punjabi? Cool! And I thought I was the only one.
     
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