OK, I have two questions about this fellow if he is Lumiya's apprentice, what Force Powers do we have evidence he knew? if his father is a Thyrsian Sun Guard, doesn't that technically make him an Echani?
It's been a while since I've read the comic, but I think Carnor Jax displays street-grade telekinesis {which is to say unimpressive in the grand scheme of things}. What made him dangerous was his fighting prowess and training due to his tenure as a Royal Guardsman.
He's said to have a father. However, according to WOS (Word of Stradley) he and Kanos are clones. So, that would mean both were cloned from the same source.
I personally much prefer the idea that Kir Kanos is Force sensitive, even if Randy isn't big on it... the guy can deflect blaster bolts. I actually really like the idea of the Red Guards being Force sensitive, but specifically trained to make use of it but not be aware of it. Seems like something Palpatine would do.
I like to think of Kanos as a clone, too. Does anyone know when Kir Kanos would have been cloned? It seems like Starkiller was one of the first Force sensitive clones, though later we see Joruus C'Baoth, who I believe was cloned quite a bit earlier. Obviously cloning Force sensitives was very tricky.
IIRC it was supposed to be obvious that their faces were identical but then the art... er... wasn't up to the task. I'm kind of expecting CE3 to give a final answer on Kanos being a clone or not. I can't think of any other reason they had to wait after the PT was released.
He isn?t the talkative type anyway ^^ and there is the Crimson Empire Audio drama where he recalls being part of the storm trooper commandos (together with Jax) and both getting assigned to royal guard training. PS: The audio drama also features what might be the coolest line ever ushered by an Imperial soldier ?could be empty, sarge? ?yeah, and Palpatine is my daddy?
I've always preferred the idea of them being clones, too. Ever since I first read it, when Jax's mask came off it always struck me as a parallel of when Luke saw his own face staring back at him in the cave on Dagobah. As for the Royal Guard's "Force-sensitivity"? Albeit I know Randy prefers not to think of Kanos as FS, I've always liked to see the Royal Guard as on the lower-end of sensitivity, i.e. people who weren't strong enough in the Force to be trained as Hands or Inquisitors or whatever, but who had enough of an unconscious connection to be able to do the whole attack anticipation, blaster bolt deflection, etc. We get lots of vanilla Jedi Knights, we increasingly see more and more uberpowered Sith Emperors, but we so rarely get people who don't have what it takes to hurl rocks around, but who are just that first small step "up" from everyone else.
Right, but I don't believe they were cloned and/or Force sensitive. Definitely agreed. These guys don't descend from any uber-powerful blood line, but are as good as they are because of their training.
Yes, unless he's a cyborg or genetically enhanced, I see no reason why Kir Kanos can deflect energy bolts. Force sensitivity doesn't mean Jedi. I tend to take it as a metaphor for, "These people can defeat you in melee combat despite you having a gun."
There has been one case I'm aware of of a non-Force sensitive deflecting blaster bolts (Darca Nyl from Nomad), but there isn't much to suggest he could do that on a regular basis. And for all we know, he could have been "slightly" Force sensitive.
I took that to be partially blind luck. Still, Darca Nyl is a master warrior who just happens to use a lightsaber. I put him up with the Fetts for Muggle super-warriors. Even so, I think that he wouldn't be able to do what Kir does which is PRECISELY calculate where a TIE fighter will crash in order to destroy an infantry regiment.
Wasen't he a fallen Jedi? We also have the Mandalorian Guards in TCW deflecting blaster bolts with their fighting staffs.
Nah, Darca was said to be totally non-Force sensitive... he was hunting a fallen Jedi, if I remember correctly. I also agree that him deflecting the blaster shot was, on some level, probably luck, even though he's a great warrior. I read the Rebellion comic, but I honestly can't remember... was Darca killed by Vader, or did he make it out alive? I'll have to watch those TCW episodes again sometime... don't remember any of them deflecting blaster shots.
Vader had a choice between killing a Fallen Jedi turned Crime Lord and Darca Nyl. He chose the Fallen Jedi Crimelord.
Season 2 Episode 13 - Voyage of Temptation you see a few of them fighting droids in a corridor and deflecting blaster bolts with their staffs.
This annoys me a lot. So many sources stating that this isn't possible, and that Grievous could only do it cos of enhanced reflexes etc etc and some lazy writer thinks that the only way to make them look powerful / cool is to have them able to deflect blasters. Ugh, give the GFFA some cohesion PLEASE. </end over reaction>
To steal a quote from Pfluegermeister in the Plagueis thread, I'm inclined to dismiss TCW's Mandalorians as nothing superhuman, just above average humans. In other words, anyone I see batting blaster bolts away, be it with a lightsaber or otherwise, I put down to supernatural reflex.
Turn to the Dark Empire Sourcebook. We know that the Emperor's Sovereign Protectors were comprised of the best Red Guard: "This most elite order of the Emperor's bodyguards os selected from the main body of the crimson-robes Royal Guard... ...Once they have shown exemplary achievement in all these matters, the most crucial step is begun. Unlike all the other soldiers at the Emperor's command, the Sovereign Protectors are taught in the ways of the Dark Side." Clearly the only known gateway to becoming a Sovereign Protector is through the crimson-robed Royal Guard. And at least some of them -- enough of them -- are Force sensitive enough to be taught the ways of the Dark Side.
