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CT Empire Strikes Back Snowspeeder transparency mistake?

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by legaiaflame, Jan 1, 2016.

  1. legaiaflame

    legaiaflame Jedi Youngling

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    During the Fight with the Snowspeeders and the AT-ST walkers, there supposedly is a moment where one of the inside cockpits, for just a second, becomes transparent; possibly due to the green screen. (could be outside though not sure now...)

    I saw this a long time ago, so it might have been in the 1997 version; but when I watched the blue-ray version I didn't notice it...Can anyone confirm this mistake during that fight, at what moment it is, and what version the mistake is in?
     
  2. PEW PEW

    PEW PEW Jedi Knight

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    Corrected in the 97 special editions I believe

    EDIT: to elaborate, it was these scenes from the cockpit. What is nice and black in these images was more transparent in the theatrical version. One of the good things the special edition did ( although I never, ever noticed the transparency until Lucasfilm pointed it out)

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  3. legaiaflame

    legaiaflame Jedi Youngling

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    Is there any footage on youtube or anywhere showing the error?
     
  4. Darth Dnej

    Darth Dnej Jedi Master star 4

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    Apr 27, 2013

    Skip to 4:55

    This is one of the few positive changes made in the Special Editions.
     
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  5. legaiaflame

    legaiaflame Jedi Youngling

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    Great! Thanks a lot!
     
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  6. MeBeJedi

    MeBeJedi Force Ghost star 6

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    It was more of a problem with the optical printers and transparency...but the effect was harder to see on the big screen.
     
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  7. PymParticles

    PymParticles Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Stanley enough, for all the snowspeeder transparency comments I've seen, I've never noticed it, and I've actively looked. However, despite never seeing it mentioned, I've noticed you can clearly see the Falcon go a bit transparent in front of a Star Destroyer shortly after it leaves the asteroid field.
     
  8. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    Aug 19, 2003
    yeah there were many shots were compositing was used and there was bleed through. the snowspeeder cockpit being transparent was something they had to do to get other things to look right and because of their other limitations. they had to sacrifice some things to get other things to work.
     
  9. MeBeJedi

    MeBeJedi Force Ghost star 6

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    Yes....the Hoth shots were the most challenging because of the difference in contrast. Dark space shots conceal it better.