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EU Books and Padme

Discussion in 'Literature' started by JediPrincess37, Nov 13, 2005.

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  1. JediPrincess37

    JediPrincess37 Jedi Youngling

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    Forgive me if this thread is posted somewhere else.

    I'm quite new to the EU (thanks to a friend), and I had a question I was hoping could be answered. Are there any novels/comics/anything that have a plotline, or background plotline involving Padme, or her children gaining any knowledge of her? It just seems to me that they never seem to find, nor want to find, any information on who she was or what happened to her.

    I'd greatly appreciate any information :)
     
  2. Commander5052

    Commander5052 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    In Troy Denning's new Dark Nest books, there's a subplot in which Luke and Leia find holorecordings Artoo has made of Padme and Anakin.
     
  3. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Also, in the Black Fleet Crisis Trilogy, Luke goes on a search for his mother but the woman who purports to know her is lying to him.
    Basically, the EU could never go anywhere with her before the prequels came out, and only now after ROTS are they free to let Luke and Leia know about her. Expect Padme to have a subplot in Legacy of the Force, as well.

    But anyway, welcome to the EU![:D]
     
  4. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 8

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    Yup, Luke and Leia finally start finding out about their mother in the Dark Nest trilogy by Troy Denning. The first two, The Joiner King and The Unseen Queen, have come out, and the third one, The Swarm War, will come out around Christmas time. They find out from Artoo, who doesn't want to show them anything to protect Luke and Leia.

    There was also a trilogy where Luke went on a search for his mother, but it turned out to be a bunch of lies, and he didn't learn anything.

     
  5. JediPrincess37

    JediPrincess37 Jedi Youngling

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    Thank you, Commander, I'll be sure to check those out :)

     
  6. JediPrincess37

    JediPrincess37 Jedi Youngling

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    Thanks everyone, I appreciate all the help. I've been given Tatooine Ghost to start reading, and so far, I like it...but I feel like I've missed quite a bit of plotline before this story. I like how Denning manages to include key plots from TPM and ATOC into the storyline...

    What about these comics I hear everyone talking about?
     
  7. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    What about them? There are a lot of comics, so we need specifics. If you're talking about Republic's Clone Wars run, then I'll tell you those comics are incredible, and you need to get out there right now and get them. I recommend the TPBs, personally.
     
  8. Thrawn McEwok

    Thrawn McEwok Co-Author: Essential Guide to Warfare star 6 VIP

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    There is next to no plotline or background on Padmé in the EU material, for the simple reason that it had to be held back until after RotS came out, so they've only begun to work on it with the Dark Nest trilogy, of which (as I assume you know) the first two books came out in July and September this year.

    However, I think I've found a very heavy, and well-written (but immensely well-hidden, and now, sadly, non-canon) subtext implication about the twins' mother in one of the older EU novels...

    That may, I fear, say more about me than anything else; I have a tendancy to find subtext in places the authors never thought about it... :confused: [face_laugh]

    Nevertheless, I'm working up to starting a thead about it when I have time...

    - The Imperial Ewok
     
  9. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Padme has a small appearance in the comics collected in the Clone Wars Volume 2: Victories & Sacrifices TPB (Trade PaperBack- a graphic novel collection of multiple comic issues).
     
  10. Hyperion51

    Hyperion51 Jedi Master star 3

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    I don't know about comics or books for young readers, but there are 2 or 3 novels from Del Rey that have Padme involved as a supporting character.

    Yoda: Dark Rendezvous has Padme in a couple scenes at the beginning of the book, one or two about midway through, and at the end. However, these are very small parts, and her actions in the story have no effect on the main storyline.

    Labyrinth of Evil has her, but I've only skimmed through it, so I couldn't tell you how involved she is in the story.

    I believe she may be mentioned in the novel Cloak of Deception, which takes place prior to TPM.

     
  11. Ive_Got_Two_Legs

    Ive_Got_Two_Legs Jedi Youngling star 4

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    At the end of Cloka of Deception, she has a brief cameo - after she becomes queen, she and Palpatine have a small discussion over the Holonet, where she basically agrees to give him free reign to promote whatever policies he wishes in the Senate (due to her inexperience).

    In Labyrinth of Evil, she's in a few scenes throughout the book. One is where the Loyalist Committee tries to get Palpatine to reduce some of his power; one is where she tries to convince Bail Organa that Palpatine's not as bad as he thinks; the largest one is Padme, Bail, and Mon Mothma fighting off battle droids during the attack on Coruscant, and the last is Padme watching Grevious transmit images of the captured Palpatine over the HoloNet, and she cries and wishes Anakin was there. But on the whole, Bail Organa had a much larger part in LoE than Padme did (especially since at least two of those above scenes are from Bail's POV).
     
  12. Sn4tcH

    Sn4tcH Jedi Master star 4

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    You've sparked my interest... I've never heard of the reference. (I think)
     
  13. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    Three scenes, actually, Hyperion: start, middle, end.

    Three scenes, with absolutley no relevance or impact to anything in the book.

    :D
     
  14. Kudzu

    Kudzu Jedi Knight star 5

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    Don't start complaining about one of the best Star Wars books ever released again, Ex. You could have gotten Escape from Dagu instead. Have you even read Dark Rendezvous the whole way through?

    Padmé's not in the EU much, and rightfully so. Her only decent purpose in the PT is to have Anakin's kids and die. Never seemed like a compelling character to me in the slightest.
     
  15. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    You rakghoul infested entree, of course I read the blasted book till the end! How can I mock something without knowledge of it? Jedi Trial has escaped Mara's dungeon, but not SQ. And I count SQ and DR and something else as the the most genuinely painful books I've ever read, and felt insulted to be reading. Shatterpoint was a close contender, but it has strong affirmatives that balance out. I also misinterpreted Stewart's statement of desiring to write a kicking saber fight, which I thought was the end and forced myself to reach it, which I know realise was that children's stick fest.

    Besides, who said I was going to read Dagu? Frogging aliens wanting freedom? Like Destiny's Way's back cover, it straight out tells you how things end, doesn't it? Just knowing Darc's cunning and cruel is enough to put me off. I'm not reading cliche-stereotypical villains if I can help it, and while McIntosh may have lied to me that her books were adult aged, I'm not burping a sarlacc's stomach twice, nosiree. :D

    [face_talk_hand]
     
  16. Jedi_Knight88

    Jedi_Knight88 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Yes...that's one way of putting it ;)
     
  17. Kudzu

    Kudzu Jedi Knight star 5

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    Well, I understood the first paragraph. Y:DR was not about a lightsaber fight. That wasn't the important part of the climax - it was a necessary part of the climax. It wasn't even about the plot. It wasn't even about the ending.

    It was a book about philosophy. It was a coming-of-age story, and it was a man-against-all story, and it was a tragedy and a well-done one. It wasn't about the uber kool fanboi rematch showdown lightsaber fight between Yoda and Dooku!1, it was about their opposing thoughts on life, love, peace, war, and the balance of power. The shocking part of that book was that they talked, and that it hurt. It wasn't just, "Yoda arrives, Dooku reveals it's a trap, uber kool fanboi rematch showdown lightsaber fight!1" It was so much more than that.

    If you wanted substance in that book and were expecting that uber kool fanboi rematch showdown lightsaber fight between Yoda and Dooku!1, you picked up the wrong book. If you wanted a book that made you actually think about what the characters said, thought, and meant, you got the right one. Style over substance. That's why Lando did the Coruscant job Rescue One looking good too, and that's why Fortuna's scowl won no awards from the mucking Hutt.
     
  18. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    Denial is a sedative poison. It slumbers the senses. [face_hypnotized]
     
  19. Kudzu

    Kudzu Jedi Knight star 5

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    Sorry you're tired, Ex. :(
     
  20. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    I might have been premature with the rakghoul observation. The Hanna Ding issue is a messy one, true, and hurling it into a TOTJ mouth where it belongs just compounds the problem.
     
  21. Kudzu

    Kudzu Jedi Knight star 5

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    I think that feasting the acklay upon all less desirable elements of the saga would yield shaakish concavity, so Vader will spare Piett the choking and turn to the matters of a reptilian prince, rather.
     
  22. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Kudzu speaking Excellencese?

    And Excellence refuses to name The Crystal Star? Hivemind2nd, pehaps? Hmmmmmmmmm.[face_thinking]
     
  23. Sturm Antilles

    Sturm Antilles Former Manager star 6

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    I've often wondered as to why the EU has not largely focused on Padme very much. Something is very wrong when someone like Maul, who has a handful of lines in one Star Wars movie, has a comic mini-series and novel written on him, yet Padme has neither.

    Padme needs a trilogy of books, perhaps set between Episodes II and III, or maybe covering the entire prequel era from when she gets elected Queen, all the way prior to Episode III.
     
  24. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    It was the effort that counts, kudzu. Please refer to my bio for the right form, as Tam surpassed admirably. Havac, I'm not sure what you meant by refusing to name . . . I didn't like Crystal Star, but it had some good positives in fairness.

    Juhani has some good positives too, but lets not bungee that jump . . .
     
  25. peregrine

    peregrine Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm actually glad that we saw so little of Padmé... I find her character quite boring. And much like the other Prequel-era people, she's an idiot(spent too much time among the Jedi, maybe?) Plus, she fell in love with a mass-murderer! It just seems so fake to me...
     
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