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Lit EU references in the Clone Wars tv series?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Endor_boy, Jan 11, 2014.

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  1. Endor_boy

    Endor_boy Jedi Knight star 2

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    I just wondered what EU references people have noticed in TCW.
     
  2. Zeta1127

    Zeta1127 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    They didn't reference the EU at all in TCW, unless one counts rewriting a backstory or two and changing established facts from the EU for the hell of it as references.
     
  3. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    Probably shouldn't make stuff up.
     
  4. sharkymcshark

    sharkymcshark Jedi Knight star 3

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    I'm no where near enough versed on TCW series to say what they did and didn't reference, but I was disappointed they never had Nejaa Halcyon (ie Corran Horn's grandfather) as even a background character in any of the episodes.
     
  5. timmoishere

    timmoishere Force Ghost star 6

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    Doesn't a lot of TCW action take place on the planet Muunilinst? That was a planet Zahn invented in his Hand of Thrawn duology; it's one of the major financial hubs of the Imperial Remnant. So it was nice for TCW to take that backstory and make it into the home of the Muun species and the Intergalactic Banking Clan.
     
  6. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 51x Wacky Wed/3x Two Truths/29x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    I figure quite a few TCW planets originate in the EU- of which Dathomir is the most notable. Both TCW and Bantam-era Dathomir have "Nightsisters".

    Carida also got a mention in Season 5 as the planet with the military conference- that the Confederacy was attempting to destroy with a suicide ship.
     
  7. beccatoria

    beccatoria Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Quinlan Vos shows up, as does Aayla Secura.

    Vos's appearance was based on a background extra in TPM, so they later retconned that to actually being him, and in ROTS, one of the easter eggs they threw in for the fans was Obi-Wan referencing "Master Vos," but he is very definitely an EU creation and he gets an episode in TCW.

    Aayla Secura originated completely in the EU, but George Lucas liked the cover of some comic she was in enough that he decided he was going to put her in the movies. She has cameo appearances (and no lines?) in AOTC and ROTS. The version of her that appears in TCW is compliant with her EU appearances, including her master-padawan relationship with Quinlan Vos.

    The robo-legs that Maul had are based on the design of some robo-legs he had in a Tales story, I think?

    I'm pretty sure some of the detail about lightsaber construction and attuning the crystals that they used in the episode where the kids make lightsabers came from EU sources originally too? I may be wrong on that though...
     
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  8. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    Man, there was so much EU stuff in TCW it is hard to know where even to begin: I mean, they even had characters speak in Travis' Mandolorian language for crying out loud, not far from a big mural of the Mandolorian Wars from Kotor and an EU accurate depiction of the Death Watch symbol.

    Dathomir and the Nightsisters have been mentioned, but it is worth pointing out that they are almost identical to their appearance in the Infinity Gate.

    Onderon is very faithful to its EU depictions; including the fact that it was an important founding member of the Rebel Alliance.

    Cardia appears in an episode as an important center for the Republic military, just as it is described.

    More that I can't think of off the top of my head. People remember the controversies, since they spent time arguging about them, but despite what you hear, most of the EU references are very accurate.

    I also feel the need to point out that there were a lot more EU references planned that never made the cut for various reasons - from Saboath star fighters (not enough time and money to make the model before its scheduled appearance) to various Death Watch designs based Mandolorians from many sources (ultimately decided the casual viewer would better appreciate the classic Boba Fett look.)
     
  9. RC-1991

    RC-1991 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Originally, the Mortis arc would also feature the ghosts of Darth Revan and Darth Bane as well.
     
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  10. Todd the Jedi

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    Monument Plaza shows up in one episode. While based on a McQuarrie concept sketch, it was fleshed out in various EU sources.

    There's a shoutout to the Thrawn trilogy in the form of the Marg Sabl maneuver, used here by Ahsoka.

    There's also the accurate use of Aurebesh, which was made a readable alphabet by West End Games, in many episodes.
     
  11. gizkaspice

    gizkaspice Force Ghost star 4

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    we also have reference to Gree in the clone commander "Gree"
    the species Bivall may possibly be a homage to Rakata
    and of all things.... a Selkath bountry hunter
     
  12. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    An Aqualish in season 1 says "Tagwa" in response to a command, which is Huttese for "Yes."
     
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  13. Mia Mesharad

    Mia Mesharad Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Ehh, not really...

    More like some old fan translations of what they thought the Mandalorian language was. It's become an EU reference retroactively when it was labeled as being the same as the pre-existing Concordian dialect as an afterthought.
     
  14. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    Sabaoth fighters? Which episode(s) were they planned for? :eek:
     
  15. Arrian

    Arrian Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The battle of Dantooine is also mentioned by TCW.
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  16. Grand Admiral Paxis

    Grand Admiral Paxis Jedi Master star 3

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    Probably the single most frustrating and baffling thing about TCW was that they clearly knew that the EU existed and drew inspiration from it. There would be distant background murals that you wouldn't even notice unless you were watching it frame by frame depicting ancient battles from the Mandalorian Wars, but then they'd go and do stuff like dumping Even Piell in a river of lava :p
     
  17. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    I think that's just evidence that guys like Filoni would do it "by the book" if they had a choice, but there were other considerations (old man Lucas).

    Even Piell could have been a gen'dai!
     
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  18. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    Even if they wanted to stay away from it, the problem is that the "EU" created most of the background information of the OT, and I doubt the PT would've had every background character, location and item be given information without the EU's example (and relied heavily on it anyways) - unless they wanted to go back to the days of "Hammerhead" and "Three-Eyes" they were going to have detailed information, and like Zahn did, used the existing set of information. What puzzles and irritates EU fans is the often bizarre alterations to established EU - if the EU's description of Ryloth was so bothersome, for instance, why not just make up a different planet? - but Filoni implied that was mostly on Lucas.

    And, of course, Asajj Ventress was absolutely EU material before her appearance on CWAS.
     
  19. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    Beyond expanding on the existing material, such as the homeworld of the Twi'leks, I think there's a lot of cross-pollination in the sense that a lot of stuff in the EU, such as the VicStar, the Mandalorians, the Z-95, and Ventress were developed out of unused concepts from the films, and that's where Lucas is going to tread when he does his TV show and give his spin on them.
     
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  20. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    Eh, I would have to wonder how much he'll be involved. Certainly the Sienar reference doesn't seem his style.
     
  21. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    I don't think he's going to be involved in Rebels -- I shouldn't have used future tense, but I meant with TCW specifically.
     
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  22. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    In Rebels. Little to none. He's retired. In TCW, he had quite a lot.
     
  23. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    Ah. Well, as far as CWAS, it seems more like everything EU related came from everyone who wasn't Lucas - or I should say the elder Lucas.

    When Lucas made his surprise appearance at C6, he had to turn to ask Filoni what the name of one of the common SW aliens was. I don't think anyone is going to confuse him with GRRM any time soon.
     
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  24. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    I seem to recall that GRRM has some fan(s) he turns to for obscure information.
     
  25. Zeta1127

    Zeta1127 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    It seems like Lucas wanted to be like Tolkien or Asimov, but knows he can only really do films and television, so he made sure there was someone there to manage the Star Wars bible that is the Holocron, making C-canon little more than an idea farm for him.
     
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