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Even straight women like women more than men

Discussion in 'Archive: Your Jedi Council Community' started by VadersLaMent, Dec 25, 2009.

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  1. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    Straight women prefer women

    New research has revealed heterosexual women are more likely to be aroused by looking at naked women than naked men.

    Dr Meredith Chivers, a research fellow at the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health at the University of Toronto, has completed several studies on the arousal responses of men and women while they watched video clips depicting naked men and women in various sexual and non-sexual scenarios.

    According to the New York Times, by using a photoplethysmograph (a device that measures blood flow to the genitals) Chivers found that when heterosexual women viewed naked women, their blood flow increased significantly, as opposed to when they viewed naked men.

    Chivers also found that straight women, straight men and lesbians all verbally reported increased arousal when watching women, whereas gay men ?were more predictably aroused by images of their preferred sex?.

    Sociologist Kirsten Mclean, from Monash University, told MCV that Chivers? study offers nothing new to what we already know about women?s sexuality.

    ?There is a lot of research that says women are a lot more flexible in their sexual attractions and desires, and are more likely to move along the continuum, than men are,? Mclean said.

    ?In terms of identification, men aren?t as fluid; heterosexual men may have sex with men but still believe they are heterosexual; and gay men may have sex with women but still identify as gay.

    ?However, there has also been a study that showed lots of flexibility amongst a fairly young male sample, so maybe there?s been a generational shift,? she concluded.



    This cam eup in a science forum that was discussing the film Avatar where one girl exclaimed that she did not look at the blue skinned ladies in a sexual way.

    [image=http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/jamescameronsavatar/images/4/4a/Neytiri.jpg]

    What is it with blue skinned women in scifi? Aayla Secura, Smufette, that one girl in the game Mass Effect.

    Sexy blue women in science fiction

     
  2. GIMER

    GIMER Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well DUH!
     
  3. DantheJedi

    DantheJedi Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Breasts are just THAT powerful.
     
  4. FlareStorm

    FlareStorm Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    1) In almost every case, they are wearing a skimpy costume
    2) In most cases, they are in a piece of fiction where they end up putting out.
    3) In almost every case, they are strong and capable, yet still subservient to the main male hero
    4) We're wired to try new things to spread the genes, but on the other hand new things are often dangerous. Getting with a a cantaloupe or 97 year old woman is a little too weird. A "woman" who is only different via blue skin hits the middle ground nicely.

    So, a blue-skinned girl in a bikini that you know will put out without strings attached pushes all the right buttons
     
  5. Healer_Leona

    Healer_Leona Squirrel Wrangler & Former Mod/Wacky Wed. Winner star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Winner

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    ?There is a lot of research that says women are a lot more flexible in their sexual attractions and desires, and are more likely to move along the continuum, than men are,? Mclean said.


    Exactly.
     
  6. DarthLowBudget

    DarthLowBudget Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    It's not really fair to men is it? We really don't stand a chance. Not exactly news though.
     
  7. Asterix_of_Gaul

    Asterix_of_Gaul Jedi Master star 5

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    If I'm reading this right and it's true...I find it somewhat depressing. I actually showed this to my sister though, and she thinks it's a load of BS--

    well she thinks this thread title, at least, is BS:

    "Even straight women like women more than men."

     
  8. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Agreed - men not being flexible in their orientation bodes ill for some of my future dating prospects.
     
  9. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    http://boards.theforce.net/your_jedi_council_community/b10008/29987377/p1/?11


    Now if you'll excuse me, I am going to drown myself in the bathroom sink.
     
  10. DarthLowBudget

    DarthLowBudget Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    lol.
     
  11. DarthLassic007

    DarthLassic007 Jedi Master star 6

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    If a man is bisexual, he is actually gay. If a woman is bisexual, she is still in college. :p

     
  12. CucumberBoy

    CucumberBoy Jedi Knight star 3

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    First of all - lol

    Also - wtx is up with the thread title? Even straight women like women more than men
    - So now no one likes us. Guess we had it coming...
     
  13. mrsvos

    mrsvos Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    So...I can has Brangelina sandwich...hold the Brad?
     
  14. timmoishere

    timmoishere Force Ghost star 6

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    Win
     
  15. icqfreak

    icqfreak Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'm not surprised. While I'd hesitate to say my fiancee gets "aroused" by naked females, I do know she generally finds naked males unattractive.
     
  16. Lurking_Around

    Lurking_Around Jedi Knight star 6

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    I'm so glad that time, money and effort are being was...I mean, spent on this pivotal issue which may hold the key to humanity's survival. Clearly, more study should be devoted for issues such as this instead of crap like climate change.

    Verily!

    [face_tired]
     
  17. AnakinsGirl

    AnakinsGirl Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Keep in mind that your fiancee might not admit--to herself or to anyone else--that she gets aroused when looking at other women, physically her body may be showing signs of arousal. For some women, the fear of homosexuality that has more or less been ingrained in them by family, society, religious values, etc. may cause them to insist the same thing.
     
  18. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    ...or, you know, they could just not be attracted to other women. But we'll go with the ingrained homophobia.
     
  19. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 10

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    I think this actually points to something that I thought when I read this study, about methodology. What this really proves isn't that heterosexual women find women more attractive than men but that they find women's bodies more attractive than men's bodies. This might seem like splitting hairs, but there's more to attraction than physical attraction.

    Also, I think the results would be different if the images shown were perhaps erotic but not nude. Just a hypothesis. Because, let's face it, the nude female form is simply more aesthetically pleasing than the nude male form. I think that if you did a survey, a majority of people would agree (just based on anecdotal evidence). It's possible the lesser attraction to naked males could have a "penises are ugly" factor that, well, is pretty true :p

    Now I'm not saying that invalidates the study. Obviously physical attraction to the naked form is a part of attraction. But it's also true that most attraction happens between people who aren't naked (yet :p). And I would just be curious to know if straight women are also more attracted to clothed women than to men.

    Attraction also involves a *lot* of personality factors, obviously. I think the fact that these straight women aren't super attracted to images of naked men they don't actually know could also be further evidence of the differences in what motivates men and women's attraction.
     
  20. Carlo_Ancelotti

    Carlo_Ancelotti Jedi Youngling star 3

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    The female body is a work of art. The male body is utilitarian. It's for gettin around. It's like a Jeep.
     
  21. Rogue1-and-a-half

    Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Brilliant.

    On the actual issue, frankly I've never understood why women would be physically attracted to men. I mean, Jude Law and Cary Grant being the obvious exceptions. That prove the rule.

     
  22. DarthLowBudget

    DarthLowBudget Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I find myself inclined to agree with solojones, Carlo, and Rogue on this issue.
     
  23. Asterix_of_Gaul

    Asterix_of_Gaul Jedi Master star 5

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    I still find it rather unfortunate. I think men are attracted to the female form in addition to things beyond appearance. So basically this sounds like, men like women more than women like men. I suppose it'd be absurd to expect that to be equal, but...

    Eh, well at the same time, I don't think this applies to everyone. My third GF was much more obsessed with the male form than the female form (she's also an artist). Perhaps women like her are exceptions.

    Edit: There's also the possibilty that the female form has been elevated above the male form because of society being traditionally dominated by males. You see ads, movies, artwork etc. everywhere elevating the female form often used for sex appeal in mass media.

    Perhaps it's just the time period. Personally I don't think the male form stands a chance in hell compared to the beauty of the female form. The Greeks, however, idolized the male form so....I dunno. :)
     
  24. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Firstly, your reaction is hilarious. As though some misandric culture has sprung up. These are heterosexual women, which does say something about their attractions.

    Secondly, there are many ways to interpret this study, mainly because it's being reported in the news media ("MODERATE WINE DRINKERS WHO LIVE AROUND THE MEDITERRANEAN ARE HEALTHIER THEREFORE ALCOHOL IS AWESOME FOR YOU"). For example, do they become aroused necessarily because they find women more sexually attractive? Is it because they "appreciate" the female form more? I'd be hard-pressed to say yes, especially considering [ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE] the "appreciation" many women have for attractive men who take off their shirts.

    I am also dubious as to the validity of measuring sexual arousal by blood flow to the genitals. If we just went by that, studies would indicate that 13-year-old boys really, really like math class.
     
  25. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 10

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    I'd probably follow Asterix's line of thought (in a non-religious thread!) and suggest that this probably says something about our socialization. Women are very heavily sexualized in our culture, whereas men are seen as more gender neutral and not especially sexual in nature. It's unsurprising that someone's sexual interest/arousal would reflect that, given the heavy psychological and learned components of attraction.
     
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